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Drivers fume over toll tickets
The Washington Times ^ | 7-27-05 | Tarron Lively

Posted on 07/27/2005 11:03:36 AM PDT by JZelle

Maryland transportation authorities are using E-ZPass technology to cite thousands of motorists who speed through toll plazas -- a tactic that has drivers and transportation groups fuming. Citizen Advocates for Safe and Efficient Travel, a motorist advocacy group, logged more than 300 complaints from upset drivers since July 15, when the group's president said the strategy was made public. "On one hand, the state wants [drivers] to buy E-ZPass to help traffic flow; then, on the other hand, nails us for doing it," President Chuck Jackson said. "It's a cheap speed-trap aimed at unsuspecting motorists, who are being cited for violating a speed limit that is difficult to obey and posted so you don't see it until they already 'gotcha.' Nearly everyone who called accused the state of being deceptive and sneaky in the way this is being handled." State officials said the monitoring of speed at the state's seven toll plazas is neither new nor clandestine. "When a customer opens an account and E-ZPass, they are agreeing to the terms and conditions," said Teri Moss, a spokeswoman for the Maryland Transportation Authority. "I need to stress that a motorist frequently has to be going substantially above the posted speed in order for their accounts to be suspended."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: ezpass; maryland; ripoff; tollscam
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1 posted on 07/27/2005 11:03:37 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: JZelle
"I need to stress that a motorist frequently has to be going substantially above the posted speed in order for their accounts to be suspended."

In other words, the regular flow of traffic.

2 posted on 07/27/2005 11:09:30 AM PDT by Lil'freeper ("If you want to get happy, birthday cake is the way to go." -- Stephanie Plum)
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I'm amazed they haven't yet given tickets to speeders on toll roads. They know what time you got on and off, do the math and bingo, you get a speeding ticket along with your change.


3 posted on 07/27/2005 11:09:42 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: JZelle
"I need to stress that a motorist frequently has to be going substantially above the posted speed in order for their accounts to be suspended."

Typical bureaucrat. The question and allegation wasn't account suspension, it was speeding.

4 posted on 07/27/2005 11:09:43 AM PDT by Cboldt
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"I need to stress that a motorist frequently has to be going substantially above the posted speed in order for their accounts to be suspended."

Typical bureaucrat. The question and allegation wasn't account suspension, it was being ticketed for speeding.

5 posted on 07/27/2005 11:10:06 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: JZelle
Old post of mine: E-ZPass Sucks

ML/NJ

6 posted on 07/27/2005 11:10:54 AM PDT by ml/nj
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The strictest law and order types on here will have a hard time arguing against these tactics...

Nowadays, many of the traffic laws are enforced not because of safety, but for revenue production.


7 posted on 07/27/2005 11:11:34 AM PDT by Dolphan (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad.)
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So these are people speeding through the EZ-Pass lane? Then they SHOULD be ticketed. I see people flying through there, when the speed is clearly posted. There are often toll workers walking around, their lives are in danger because of these drivers.

Now, if they are using secret speed traps at other parts of the highway, that would be different.

8 posted on 07/27/2005 11:11:52 AM PDT by Paradox (I just neutered my cat, now he's a Liberal.)
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To: stevio

Traffic tickets = REVENUE. Doesn't has squat to do with safety.


9 posted on 07/27/2005 11:12:20 AM PDT by Clock King
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"It's a cheap speed-trap aimed at unsuspecting motorists, who are being cited for violating a speed limit that is difficult to obey and posted so you don't see it until they already 'gotcha.'"

Bull. The speed limits were clearly posted. E-Z Pass members were warned far in advance that cars were going through too fast. I'm not a big fan of Md. gov't, but E-Z Pass is correct here, IMHO.


10 posted on 07/27/2005 11:13:32 AM PDT by gate2wire (We Honor Those Who Serve---WE REMEMBER--Thank you)
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The speed limit in the E-Zpass lanes is only 15mph through the toll.. Jeez, in Houston, I've followed cops going over 80mph through the equivalent on the beltway....


11 posted on 07/27/2005 11:15:23 AM PDT by tje
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From the article:

The speed limit in most of the E-ZPass lanes is 15 mph.

I'm pretty much a strict law and order type, and agree that with the info presented, this seems ridiculous and simply a speed trap.

12 posted on 07/27/2005 11:16:21 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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Maryland, another democrat voting socialist state. You get what you voted for.


13 posted on 07/27/2005 11:16:21 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (The government and courts are stealing your freedom & liberty!)
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"Then they SHOULD be ticketed. I see people flying through there, when the speed is clearly posted."

Exactly, I go through 5 tolls a day and many of these drivers go thru much too fast. They were warned.


14 posted on 07/27/2005 11:16:33 AM PDT by gate2wire (We Honor Those Who Serve---WE REMEMBER--Thank you)
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To: Paradox
So these are people speeding through the EZ-Pass lane? Then they SHOULD be ticketed. I see people flying through there, when the speed is clearly posted. There are often toll workers walking around, their lives are in danger because of these drivers.

I don't think it's talking about speeding at the tollbooth area, but using the transponders to calculate their speed over the whole toll-road portion of trip.

15 posted on 07/27/2005 11:16:58 AM PDT by Sloth (History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
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"So these are people speeding through the EZ-Pass lane? Then they SHOULD be ticketed. I see people flying through there, when the speed is clearly posted. There are often toll workers walking around, their lives are in danger because of these drivers."

Just getting all the frustration out after sitting in traffic while all the idgets who don't have ezpass clog up the ezpass only lane and try and cut over to the cash lanes. Those people should be hauled off to jail. ;)

I haven't seen anyone speed too heavily through the booths. Sort of hard to hit an opening a couple feet wider than your car at 60 miles an hour. Then again I'm not sure I've seen anyone actually go 5 miles through there either.

If they wanted to make it safer they should just do what they do in NYC. Put the little gate on there that opens and shuts. No speeding through the booths with those in place. Then again it would cut into the revenue generation to pay for the roads which i then pay for again when the county, state, and feds steal my money.
16 posted on 07/27/2005 11:17:03 AM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: Clock King
Traffic tickets = REVENUE. Doesn't has squat to do with safety.

And it's the easiest tax to avoid, legally.

I wish all government revenue was raised via traffic tickets without the use of sales tax, income tax, etc. My effective tax rate would plummet.

17 posted on 07/27/2005 11:17:48 AM PDT by been_lurking (Fort Walton Beach, Florida)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

"The speed limit in most of the E-ZPass lanes is 15 mph.

I'm pretty much a strict law and order type, and agree that with the info presented, this seems ridiculous and simply a speed trap."

It' a toll booth. How fast should they be allowed to go?


18 posted on 07/27/2005 11:18:19 AM PDT by gate2wire (We Honor Those Who Serve---WE REMEMBER--Thank you)
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Oops, guess I was wrong. Seems like they are talking about the tollbooth plazas.


19 posted on 07/27/2005 11:18:30 AM PDT by Sloth (History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
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To: gate2wire

The article says the speed limit is 15 mph. Im unfamiliar with the layout of the particular areas in question, is there any good reason for it being so low? Absent hairpin turns or nearly nonexistant exit merge lanes for the cash lines, it is hard to picture a reason for such a low speed limit.


20 posted on 07/27/2005 11:18:40 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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