Bush presses for CAFTA as DeLay predicts win

Reuters ^ | Jul 27, 2005

[U.H. Conservative]

So the tariffs set up at the Founding that we used to fund our government and protect our industry were un-American? For some reason, I think the Founders would disagree.

[hershey]

Just heard an interesting analysis of CAFTA by a former trade official/lawyer now with Public Citizen. She said it's a thousand pages of laws, of which forty pages deal with the substance of trade between the US and Central America, the rest is all international gobbledygook, including the fact that domestically produced goods/deals will have to abide by international laws, and goodbye sovereignty. If you liked NAFTA, you'll love CAFTA. We saw a modest trade surplus plunge into hideous deficits, thanks to NAFTA, and Mexican farmers were ruined by the influx of US vegetables, etc.. It made the illegal alien problem far worse, displacing so many Mexican peasants who were unable to make a living thanks to NAFTA, and they all headed North. Now we'll do it to Central America.

[eleni121]

All sources are biased in one way or another. Having said that, the numbers speak for themselves. Any think tank that supports the free market seems to be more open and honest than let's say the AFL-CIO "think" tank.

[hedgetrimmer]

I want to expand rights

Then you cannot support the CAFTA. The CAFTA creates an unelected "Free trade" council that will unconstitutionally distribute foreign aid in the place of Congress, called "trade capacity building funds".

This is an attack on our right to constitutional government and elected representation So you see, you cannot possibly support the CAFTA, if you claim rights must be expanded.

[11th_VA]

Once again this proves the point that we did better opposing the rats than we do with our party laying on their backs for a liberal republican president.

Yes but - Clinton gave us NAFTA, and Bush is about to give us CAFTA. Who wants to join me in a phone campaign to ask Virgil Goode REP VA(former Democrat) to start a new party for the American worker. Virgil is now a Repug but is totally against this bill.

[eleni121]

Well the founders could not foresee the rapid transformations in the world, now could they? Or maybe you view the founders's words as immutable...kinda like religious universals...I keep my Bible and the "founders' writings on economic matters separate thank you.

[hedgetrimmer]

Now we'll do it to Central America.

They will return the favor by sending the MS-13 up to work some of those "jobs Americans won't do". ^tm

[eleni121]

Try the Heritage Foundation too - lots of important info there.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/TradeandForeignAid/hl872.cfm

[american spirit]

Could you be just a little more vague and simplistic about all these alleged benefits we've rec'd from NAFTA?

[hedgetrimmer]

Well the founders could not foresee the rapid transformations in the world, now could they?

No, but they knew human nature like no one else. That is why they designed our government the way they did, it is also why the globalists hate it, and the "free traders" are trying to end run around it using greed to get people to give up their sovereignty.

[Happy2BMe]

CAFTA's hidden gem will require trade nations to lower their trade tariffs with the United States.

The CAFTA proponents insist this will create huge trade markets with South America by opening up these markets to U.S. commerce - among which U.S. Agriculture would be one of the largest benefactors.

That is the theory. That was also the theory and justification for NAFTA.

It is VOODOO on steroids laced with LSD and heroin.

[skeeter]

I keep my Bible and the "founders' writings on economic matters separate thank you.

Then by what authority do you consider opposition to so called free trade agreements 'un-American'? I'm interested in your thought process here.

[eleni121]

From what I see it sounds like an excellent approach tp development...seems to foster better and more open government and less corruption. Certainly lots better than what we have now.

http://www.ustr.gov/Document_Library/Fact_Sheets/2003/Highlights_of_Trade_Capacity_Building_Initiatives_in_Support_of_U.S.-CAFTA_Negotiations.html

[hedgetrimmer]

The heritage foundation just parrots the Council on Foreign Relations. They are internationalists throught and through.

[U.H. Conservative]

Cato also supports letting a Chinese government company get its hands on U.S. energy assets.

[proudofthesouth]

You are so right and this is the third reason why Bush has lost my confidence and trust.

[U.H. Conservative]

Free trade was a concept that was discussed in that day. It is not a new issue.

So tell me, were the Founders un-American?

[eleni121]

The opposition to CAFTA as a form of discussion is not unAmerican. However the drive to build walls and retire into a shell is.

[hedgetrimmer]

Improving the Lives of Workers and Consumers

Nothing there about US citizens, eh? The government is not a business, they are here to protect the individual rights of citizens, according to the US constitution. All this nonsense about "workers" and "consumers" is only meant to undermine citizenship.

[U.H. Conservative]

"seems to foster better and more open government and less corruptio"

Worked well in Mexico, right?