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House will pass CAFTA tonight: DeLay
Reuters ^ | 07/27/05 | Reuters

Posted on 07/27/2005 8:45:41 AM PDT by cotton1706

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republicans in the House of Representatives will approve a new free trade agreement with Central America late on Wednesday with the help of a few Democrats, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said.

"It will be a tough vote but we'll pass CAFTA tonight," DeLay told reporters after a meeting between President Bush and House Republicans. "We will honor our commitments to the south, we will protect our national security and will do it all with very few Democrats."


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To: JustAnAmerican
If so then they are nothing but a bunch of Traitors who are willing to sell America out to the highest bidder, and as such need to be removed from office.

So you are calling Tom DeLay a traitor?

41 posted on 07/27/2005 10:47:48 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: hedgetrimmer

Why do you get to make the rules?

I advocate strategic gridlock.

if the politicians speend all their time fighting with the "other side" they'll have far less time to tax/borrow and spend our way into the poorhouse.


42 posted on 07/27/2005 10:53:25 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock - Make the elected personally liable for their wasteful spending)
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To: JohnnyZ

I'm not a free trader and the lower prices I understand but where do the more jobs come in? Can you tell me how this deal will be good for us as a nation (I'm not being sarcastic, it's an honest question.)


43 posted on 07/27/2005 10:53:59 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Call Tom Delay's office and ask him why he is pushing the CAFTA when it clearly usurps the authority of Congress by only allowing them a yes or no vote-- they cannot amend it.

Ask why.


44 posted on 07/27/2005 10:54:31 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Thanks for the ping.

I dont know how or why people dont see this..

BOTH parties have created the problem...the problem is that government policies have made the US a very business unfriendly environment. Its the TAX AND SPEND AND REGULATION policies people.

Instead of FIXING THEIR PROBLEM....LIKE THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO... they find a 'special' solution which involves major campaign contributors being the SOULTIONS to the problem.

What a plan.

My prediction...when this passes....the incentives to do major tax reform will fade away...where are they now...in committee somewhere?

Coming up with a radical new revenue generation scheme which replaces the progressive, liberally loved tax code will be next to impossible...seeing as to how most of our socialist trading partners will never allow it. Hell, most of the wealthy liberals in this country LIKE IT JUST AS IT IS NOW.

Hope Im wrong...but dont think so.


45 posted on 07/27/2005 10:55:33 AM PDT by Dat Mon
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To: cotton1706

We have to make jobs for all the unskilled labor in Central America that will be displaced by CAFTA, don't you see? That will cause the "job creation". The jobs won't be for Americans already living here.


46 posted on 07/27/2005 10:56:06 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: montag813

I agree. I hate to say it, but sometimes I feel like Bush has already sold out his loyal base. Let's face it, he gets all the money he needs from big business, he doesn't need it from everyday, working class people like us.

I was under the impression that George W. Bush respected U.S. sovereignty. Apparently I was wrong. Now look what we have. The White House just formed a committee to isolate so called "hard-liners" on issues like illegal immigration all in some ill-fated attempt to woo Mexican voters. He has abandoned his base.

"They do jobs Americans will not." True. CAFTA will allow foreigners to come in and do jobs that George Bush won't do. But those of us who don't come from oil-rich families actually do rely on these jobs that "Americans won't do." I'm sorry, this is a complete betrayal.


47 posted on 07/27/2005 10:56:33 AM PDT by SC33
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I believe we will all find out this evening. Please note the "If" in my first post. As a side note, anyone who supports CAFTA either did not read the text, or doesn't really care what the text is as long as they make an extra buck. Just another step for the Globalists, in their effort to destroy the Constitution of The United States America.


48 posted on 07/27/2005 10:58:59 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Americans hire Americans. Traitors hire illegals.)
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To: cotton1706

DeLay
Flood his office with calls

Washington DC Office
Ph. (202) 225-5951
Fax (202) 225-5241

Stafford, Texas District Office
Ph. (281) 240-3700
Fax (281) 240-2959


49 posted on 07/27/2005 11:05:35 AM PDT by SC33
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Just as another additional note, "if" it comes to pass I think the label "Benedict Arnold", would more aptly fit as a title.


50 posted on 07/27/2005 11:05:46 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Americans hire Americans. Traitors hire illegals.)
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To: ConservativeTerrapin

"not all Republicans aren't selling out to globalism"

Exactly!


51 posted on 07/27/2005 11:35:53 AM PDT by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: ConservativeTerrapin

"not all Republicans aren't selling out to globalism"

Exactly!


52 posted on 07/27/2005 11:35:57 AM PDT by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: Mase

Thanks for the ping. This is good news. Let the unionists and the isolationists moan and groan.


53 posted on 07/27/2005 11:45:21 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mase

Excellent news. Thanks for the ping.


54 posted on 07/27/2005 12:54:09 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; Mase; ConservativeTerrapin; Scarlet Pimpernel; SC33; JustAnAmerican; WhiteGuy; ..
Really? Then why is the president's economic council telling him we have to figure out ways to bring manufacturing back to the US, now that they have given it all away?

The challenge will come once the price of imports begins to rise. At that point, "Americans will have to produce for themselves much more of what they consume," or pay a lot more for the privilege. "Ideally, the process would involve America becoming a much bigger producing nation, "even stepping up its exports to Asia, while Asia, and especially China, takes up the role of consumer.

That is essentially the view of the Bush administration as outlined by Ben Bernanke, the newly appointed chairman of President George W. Bush's Council of Economic Advisers. "We probably have little choice except to be patient as we work to create" the necessary conditions for a reversal of roles, he said in a recent speech.

Everything you "free traders" say is being refuted by the president's own economic council.
55 posted on 07/27/2005 1:13:34 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer; Mase; Toddsterpatriot
...CAFTA gives us unelected bureacracies, secret negotiations...

So we never hear about them becuase they're secret-- but we know they're there becuase:

a. the tin foil lining in our hats start to buzz
b. we can smell the exhaust from the silent black helicopters
c. both
d. neither

 

56 posted on 07/27/2005 2:49:02 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Do you just copy and paste from the same old list of insults all the time?


57 posted on 07/27/2005 2:50:20 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
No wonder you think the way you do. You don't understand what is being said to you about the free market or basic economics.

Ben Bernanke, the newly appointed chairman of President George W. Bush's Council of Economic Advisers. "We probably have little choice except to be patient as we work to create" the necessary conditions for a reversal of roles, he said in a recent speech.

Mr. Bernanke is saying that the situation is such (China, trade imbalance, dollar fluctuation, etc.) that there is little we can do about it except wait until the market corrects things. All the government moves you and others are suggesting will only do what government intervention in a free market always does, screw it up. CAFTA is another step toward free trade and letting the market operate.

You surely don't thing Bush would appoint someone who disagreed with him do you? Here is part of the President's speech at the appointment ceramony.

In this new century, American prosperity will increasingly depend on our ability to sell our goods and services overseas. We need to pass CAFTA, the Central American-Dominican Republic Free Trade Agreement to show the world our commitment to free and fair trade, and to stand squarely with those young democracies in our own hemisphere.

Learn more and earn more.

58 posted on 07/27/2005 2:59:52 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: expat_panama
So we never hear about them because they're secret

You'd probably have to be a member of the super crypto secret organization known as CFR to be privy to this conspiracy. That Dick Cheney sure is a busy man engineering all this intrigue.

59 posted on 07/27/2005 3:12:41 PM PDT by Mase
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To: hedgetrimmer
Do you just copy and paste from the same old list of insults all the time?

No really, I just made it up just now-- thanks!  

The point here is that we started with the President twisting arms (Figure of Speech Alert!) like he's supposed to do, and some how in your post 27 this gets turned into a conspiracy of "partnering with corporate interests breeding corruption and undermining the indivdiuals right to representation and self government".  

Ordinarily I would have said something about how this seems to be a hell of a jump; but I didn't because what I expected to get back is how all this partnering, corruption, and loss of self-government is really there, but it's secret so we can't ever know about it...

 

 

There'll be a delay while I re-attach my ass.

60 posted on 07/27/2005 3:13:58 PM PDT by expat_panama
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