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Pennsylvania Nanny State Alert (HB 1489)
Pennsylvania Legislature ^ | 7-26-05

Posted on 07/26/2005 12:02:18 PM PDT by Tribune7

The Pennsylvania legislature is considering bills that will prohibit smoking "in the workplace" as I've been told, and this will include restaurants.

Hearings will soon be held on this. The House Bill is HB 1489 and the Senate Bill is SB602.

Among the claims are solons are making is: (5) Second-hand smoke causes close to 54,000 deaths 6 annually in the United States.

(Excerpt) Read more at legis.state.pa.us ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: government; health; medicine; nannygovernment; privacy; pufflist; smoking

1 posted on 07/26/2005 12:02:18 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Temple Owl

ping


2 posted on 07/26/2005 12:02:32 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

That's already law in CA. That's nothing.

Wait until the government is keeping track of people's illnesses and "intervenes" in their treatment for their own good, of course. THAT's already about to happen in NY.


N.Y. Diabetes-Tracking Plan Draws Concern

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450364/posts

Conceived after a sharp rise in diabetes deaths over the past 20 years, the plan would require medical labs to report to the city the results of a certain type of test that indicates how well individual patients are controlling their diabetes.

There will be some people who will say, 'What business of the government is it to know that my diabetes is not in control?'" said Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, the city's health commissioner.

The answer, he said, is that diabetes costs an estimated $5 billion a year to treat in New York and was the fourth leading cause of death in the city in 2003, killing 1,891.

By pinpointing problem patients, then intervening ever so slightly in their care, Frieden said the city can improve thousands of lives. "I don't think we can afford not to do anything," he said.


3 posted on 07/26/2005 12:06:14 PM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: Gabz; SheLion

Oh here's another one.


4 posted on 07/26/2005 12:06:15 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: Tribune7

More government intrusion into our lives.


5 posted on 07/26/2005 12:06:50 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Tribune7

The PA General Assembly is also considering a bill to mandate the use of seatbelts for dogs.

I'm not making this up!


6 posted on 07/26/2005 12:06:51 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: lightman

Aren't these always the people that are against the Patriot Act because of its intrusion?!


7 posted on 07/26/2005 12:08:29 PM PDT by Yancey (Yancey)
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To: Yancey

I'm against all of the nanny BS. Including the "patriot" act.


8 posted on 07/26/2005 12:10:23 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Tribune7

Hell, NJ is trying to ban smoking in cars!


9 posted on 07/26/2005 12:12:03 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Tribune7
The Pennsylvania legislature is considering bills that will prohibit smoking "in the workplace"

Thats what all the other smoking bans are about as well. Far to many people, even many FReepers, are under the impression that the smoking ban in restuarants and bars is for the health or and concern about the patrons. Wrong. It is about the employees who work at the bar.

10 posted on 07/26/2005 12:14:10 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: QQQQQ
By pinpointing problem patients, then intervening ever so slightly in their care, Frieden said the city can improve thousands of lives. "I don't think we can afford not to do anything," he said.

Of course it has been proven that by promoting stopping smoking people are living longer and thus incurring more medical costs as they age instead of dying younger. Same thing will happen if we keep more diabetics alive, they will live longer and incur more medical costs. Just liberals trying to save us money.

11 posted on 07/26/2005 12:14:48 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: QQQQQ

Yeah California is always looking for ways to dictate our personal business. I'm surprised they've made the stupid decision to ban cigarettes in the prisons. I'm no fan of prisoners, but geez what else have they got. (Well i guess there are one or two things they can do). If they are concerned about the health of these prisoners why not get them out there doing some physical labor. Being idle all day can't be good for their health either.


12 posted on 07/26/2005 12:16:09 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Phantom Lord

So I guess you won't be able to smoke in your car at a drive-in restaurant.


13 posted on 07/26/2005 12:36:41 PM PDT by LadyBuzz
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To: Phantom Lord

Whether second hand smoke causes any illness or not, whether these employees have chosen to work in a bar/restaurant or not, whether the bar/restaurant owner has decided to have a no smoking policy or not, the state will tell them what to do? If there was such a demand for no smoking in restaurants and bars, there would be more nonsmoking establishments. All this will get you is unemployed bartenders, waiters and waitresses and lower tax receipts when people choose to eat at home, where, so far, they can smoke, as has been the case in Ireland, or cross over into New Jersey, Ohio, West Virginia, Delaware and Maryland, which are accessible to many Pennsylvanians for a leisurely meal.


14 posted on 07/26/2005 1:14:32 PM PDT by mak5
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To: QQQQQ
Will an employer even intervene to suggest a promiscuous gay employee alter his risky lifestyle?

No. These days the right to privacy applies to sex, and little else.

15 posted on 07/26/2005 1:20:24 PM PDT by Montfort (Many liberals hate Bush more than they love life.)
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To: Tribune7

Let them smoke, but ban talking on a cell phone while driving.


16 posted on 07/26/2005 3:07:26 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Willie Green; Mo1; ..

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17 posted on 07/26/2005 4:22:46 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
I thought about quit smoking, but coughing is the only exercise I get
18 posted on 07/29/2005 6:38:58 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Only two requisites to be a judge. Gray hair to look wise and hemorrhoids to look concerned.)
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