Posted on 07/26/2005 7:06:51 AM PDT by areafiftyone
(Angus Reid Global Scan) More GOP supporters in the Sunshine State believe former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani would be a good presidential candidate, according to a poll by Strategic Vision. 28 per cent of respondents in Florida want Giuliani to be the Republican nominee in the 2008 election, a four per cent increase since June.
Current Florida governor Jeb Bush is second with 19 per cent, followed by Arizona senator John McCain with 17 per cent. Support is lower for former House of Representatives speaker Newt Gingrich, Tennessee senator Bill Frist, Virginia senator George Allen, Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum, Nebraska senator Chuck Hagel, and New York governor George Pataki.
In the 2004 election, Republican George W. Bush won Floridas 27 electoral votes with 52 per cent of all cast ballots. In 2000, weeks of recounts and court injunctions concluded in a 537-vote victory for Bush over Democrat Al Gore. Since 1972, the only Democrats to carry Florida in a presidential election are Jimmy Carter in 1976 and Bill Clinton in 1996.
Polling Data
Who is your choice for the Republican Presidential nomination in 2008?
(Republicans only)
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Jul. 2004 |
Jun. 2004 |
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Rudy Guliani |
28% |
24% |
Jeb Bush |
19% |
22% |
John McCain |
17% |
15% |
Newt Gingrich |
9% |
8% |
Bill Frist |
5% |
6% |
George Allen |
4% |
4% |
Mitt Romney |
2% |
1% |
Rick Santorum |
2% |
1% |
Chuck Hagel |
1% |
1% |
George Pataki |
1% |
1% |
Bill Owens |
-- |
1% |
Undecided |
12% |
16% |
Source: Strategic Vision
Methodology: Telephone interviews to 1,200 registered Florida voters, conducted from Jul. 16 to Jul. 20, 2005. Margin of error is 3 per cent.
Well I certainly care about actually getting people elected. Don't know what the point is if they're liberals though. You're right, some people don't seem to care. My philosophy is, I'll be willing to support anyone who reaches minimum standards -- if multiple candidates are above minimum I'll weigh the chances of getting them into office with how far above minimum they are. But often the more conservative candidate is also the more electable, because they can get gun rights votes, etc.
My "one-note" is gun rights, and on that litmus test, Mr. Giuliani is not good.
As to the strongest WOT candidate, maybe Mr. Giuliani is by some lights, but in my opinion, putting someone is not good on gun rights into the White House will not make this country any safer, and could well make it more dangerous.
Why? Because Dr. Keyes isn't on the list?
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Allen/Giuliani would definitely be a strong ticket, and one that I could enthusiastically support.
No, because the list is full of RINOs and squishes.
For the most part, yes. The screaming, spamming keyboard commandoes are NOT representative of the GOP electorate, nor of FR. FR polls usually prove that out.
The only one I can think of is Condi, and I don't see any reason to think she is running for anything.
Total nonsense.
"Well he is your 'own' .... senator, which is what I meant in that particular context."
You're right there. Unfortunately, my state has two weak-kneed, toe the party-line Senators: Bill Frist and Lamar Alexander. We're hoping that when Frist's term is up, a conservative (Ed Bryant perhaps) will replace him. I'm also hopeful a conservative will challenge Alexander when he runs for reelection.
Two off the top of my head are Mike Huckabee and Tim Pawlenty. Then there's the Racicot boosters, and the couple of folks who go around talking about Mike Pence. And then of course Tancredo is likely to run just to get immigration taken seriously. I'm sure there are a half dozen more at least.
Of course those folks are pretty much pro-life so they're off your radar screen.
Very true when considering the East coast. However, I think you'll find the Southwest coast (Manatee county to Collier county) to be staunchly conservative.
Please help me understand the fascination with Condi. What's her stance on abortion, affirmation action, WoD, tax cuts, health care, stem cell research, deficit spending, gay marriage, illegal immigration, border security etc...?
Elections are decided by the middle know-nothing moderates who show up the weekend before an election and begin to pay attention to the political ads flooding their TV sets.
Candidates are chosen by the active committed members of their respective political parties.
The candidate you and I might choose in the primaries, when the know-nothing moderates are home perusing their belly buttons, are going to be stronger candidates than the moderates like to vote for.
Hillary is one smart lady. She is repositioning herself in the moderate middle. She has become a recent supporter of the military, is all for protecting our Southern border, although she doesn't say how, and if for solid American middle class values, whatever that means.
She will seem the safer candidate if a solid conservative runs against her who is not well known. Giuliani has such good name recognition now that he might be able to defeat her in a national race, but he will not get the Republican nomination so that scenario is moot.
Giuliani will get a huge Jewish vote. He is loved by much of the Jewish community.
The Democrat candidate will lose traditional large Democrat States.
Part of it's the make-liberals'-heads-explode factor.
That's similar to why Zig Zag Zell was/is so popular, even though he's clearly not a consistent conservative, because he took so many liberals to the woodshed.
With so many McCain-type backstabbers around, people rejoice at those who are anathema to the other side.
The only traditional state that I see her possibly losing, and I doubt that, is PA.
Which huge states are you referring to?
Snort----Florida?
You mean the same little old ladies with dyed blue hair, million dollar trust funds, and town houses, who climbed out of sleek autos with satellite positioning systems, who said they voted for Pat Buchanan by mistake b/c they couldn't figure out the 2000 presidential ballot? They are supporting Guiliani?
Man, he better be worried.
No.
But that doesn't improve the quality of this list.
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