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Two-thirds of Muslims consider leaving UK
Guardian ^ | July 26, 2005 | Vikram Dodd

Posted on 07/25/2005 8:28:46 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16

Hundreds of thousands of Muslims have thought about leaving Britain after the London bombings, according to a new Guardian/ICM poll.

The figure illustrates how widespread fears are of an anti-Muslim backlash following the July 7 bombings which were carried out by British born suicide bombers.

The poll also shows that tens of thousands of Muslims have suffered from increased Islamophobia, with one in five saying they or a family member have faced abuse or hostility since the attacks.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aufweidersohn; buhbye; dontletthedoorhitya; doorknoba; goodriddance; hityasplitya; londonattacked; progress; solongfarewell; ukmuslims
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To: NavySEAL F-16
"Two-thirds of Muslims Consider Leaving UK"

Hey, that's a .666 ba'athing average! Not bad for a country that doesn't play baseball.

121 posted on 07/25/2005 10:42:49 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Stop thinking about it and do it! Just don't come to America!

< what kind of graffiti would go good on a mosque? >
122 posted on 07/25/2005 10:50:37 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Pro-Bush

I hear that Canada is quite welcoming to newcomers.


123 posted on 07/25/2005 11:29:11 PM PDT by garjog
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Two-thirds of Muslims consider leaving UK

Note to self: Convince the other 1/3 its best to be leaving, also...

124 posted on 07/25/2005 11:44:58 PM PDT by XHogPilot (Islam is The Death Cult)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Buh bye, sheetheads.


125 posted on 07/26/2005 12:23:04 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

and go where, I wonder?


126 posted on 07/26/2005 12:33:01 AM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
What was the point you were making with the Jews being shipped back?That didn't sound right.. A completely, very different situation. I am so missing your analogy!



---Like FDR kept the Jewish refugees out of the U.S., which was a despicable and arrogant act, I meant that if the British muslims come here they should be sent back in the same manner FDR did to the Jewish. Compared to what we did in Denmark where they smuggled the majority of the Danish Jews to Sweden for a safe "heaven":..........


Teaching About the Holocaust--Through Cartoons

by Dr. Rafael Medoff

Can cartoons be used to teach about the Holocaust?

Consider the case of the S. S. St. Louis, carrying 937 German Jewish refugees. Sixty-five years ago this week, the ship hovered off the coast of Florida, hoping to be granted haven in the United States.

But the Coast Guard cutter which approached the ship was sent not to escort it to America's safe shores, but rather to ensure that the St. Louis would draw no closer. The passengers could see the lights of Miami, but would not enter the city. President Roosevelt refused to offer shelter to the refugees. The ship returned to Europe.

Holocaust educators today are often drawn to the voyage of the St. Louis, a powerful and compelling story that has come to symbolize both the desperation of Europe's Jews and the callousness of those countries that shut their doors and closed their hearts. But, like other aspects of the Nazi era and the Holocaust, it is not always easy for teachers to convey the extent of the horror.

Film offers one alternative method of communicating such experiences, and the 1976 movie about the St. Louis, "Voyage of the Damned," was certainly a step in the right direction. Despite the flaws that are inevitably part of a Hollywood dramatization of history, the film helped make the plight of the St. Louis come alive in a way that history books find difficult to match.

But the one image which most simply and dramatically summed up the abandonment of the Jews was an editorial cartoon that was published at the time of the St. Louis crisis. It shows a tiny boat, the words "Jewish refugee ship" coming out of it smokestack, sailing past the statue of liberty. At the base of the statue are the famous words, "Give me your tired, your poor ... Send those, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me ..." Lady Liberty's face is turned away from the refugee ship, and from her upraised torch hangs a sign reading "Keep Out."

This cartoon is part of a new exhibit of cartoons from World War II-era U.S. newspapers, "Cartoonists Against the Holocaust: Art in the Service of Humanity." The exhibit debuted at a recent conference in New York on teaching about America's response to the Holocaust, sponsored by The David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies.

Another particularly striking cartoon in the exhibit was drawn by Eric Godal for the New York City newspaper P.M. in 1943. It shows two State Department officials engrossed in reading the "Washington Society" page of the daily newspaper. One official is handing the other a newspaper with a headline about 100,000 Jews being slaughtered by the Nazis each month, and is saying to his colleague, "Refer to Committee 3, Investigation Subcommittee 6, Section 8b, for consideration."

It was a jarring commentary on the Roosevelt administration's indifference to the Nazi genocide. It was also an admirable attempt by a cartoonist to use his art to influence public opinion in favor of rescue.

In our own time, cartoon art is emerging as a powerful means of Holocaust education. Art Spiegelman's book Maus, which tells about the Holocaust through cartoons and won a Pulitzer Prize in 1992, was a pioneer in this new field. More recently, Joe Kubert, the legendary comic book artist and editor, wrote and drew the critically-acclaimed Yossel: April 19, 1943, which depicts the life of a Jewish child artist in the Warsaw Ghetto. Kubert himself was born in Poland and came to the United States as an infant. The setting for the book is what he imagines would have happened to him if his parents had not been among the fortunate few who reached the United States in the 1920s, just as America was closing its doors to most immigrants.

It was most fitting, then, that Kubert authored the introduction to the "Cartoonists Against the Holocaust" exhibit, and hosted its opening at the Wyman Institute conference. In his remarks, Kubert spoke about the unique power of cartoon illustrations, "which can, with just a few strokes of the pen, convey an image or an idea that will remain in the readers' minds for years to come."

As we mark the grim sixty-fifth anniversary of the St. Louis, and ponder how best to teach young people today about episodes such as that terrifying voyage, it is worth considering that creative new methods, such as cartoons, may be particularly effective. That image of the statue of liberty with the "Keep Out" sign is literally unforgettable. And making the Holocaust unforgettable is our
127 posted on 07/26/2005 12:47:46 AM PDT by danamco
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Good, and take Americas muslims back to the sandbox with you. Turds.


128 posted on 07/26/2005 3:53:41 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: NY Attitude

"If an attack happened again, I would not be against internment for all of those folks."

Yes, the govt. could use the new unconstitutional illegal "Eminent Domain" ruling to confiscate all the pig farms in the midwest. Place them there for a couple of months and THEN deport them.

It would cost Billions to feed and house them. Catering to their special diets and weird habits is not something I want my tax dollars spent on. Get 'em out of here!


129 posted on 07/26/2005 4:56:30 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: NYFreeper

N O T! They are not going to ever control crazies because they don't think them crazy. The only solution is a complete and utter renunciation of all things muslim, otherwise seeya.


130 posted on 07/26/2005 5:01:02 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

France is looking pretty good, and only a short ride through the tunnel.


131 posted on 07/26/2005 5:06:04 AM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . The wild winds of fortune will carry us onward)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

It's simple history. There was even a movie, Voyage of the Damned I believe, which told of the plight of a boat load of Jews seeking asylum anywhere and ultimately landed back at their departure point, Aushwitz, oops I mean Nazi Germany.


132 posted on 07/26/2005 5:09:40 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Wow good news for Brits.


133 posted on 07/26/2005 5:11:24 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: dervish

So long, see ya' wouldn't wanna be ya...


134 posted on 07/26/2005 5:17:14 AM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by a majority vote" Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Smarti Pants
Seems to be a common theme even in South Dakota, only the comparison here is people coming from other states because they couldn't stand it where they were, which is pc speak for those residing there unable to stand the person departed, or his ideals, so they left to inhabit other states, attempting to bring the same stupid, ignorant, unloved philosophy with them that alienated the previous populous.
135 posted on 07/26/2005 5:17:58 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Good!


136 posted on 07/26/2005 5:20:48 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: xJones
Quick, take advantage of this situation and offer first class airfare to Pakistan, Baluchistan, whatever-stan...... who we kiddinng? No Muslim wants to go back to their own Muslim hellholes countries. (My emphasis)

In that case, send them to Mexico where I understand they are for some reason experiencing a drastic population decrease.

137 posted on 07/26/2005 5:24:33 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: NY Attitude

I like sugar and I like tea
but i don't like ragheads nosiree
There's two known things that'll make me puke
And that's a hog eatin' slop, and a stinky towel head!
You know it...cause I show it
Like a barn-yard rooster I crow it!
And CAIR you see,
would love to get it's slimy old hands
on raghead hatin me
Roses are red, and violet's are blue
And mooselimbs blow up, you know that's true
But they don't mind, cause what the heck!
You gotta be raghead to get a welfare check!
And I'm broke...no joke
I ain't got a nickel for a coke!
I don't bow to Mecca you see
and Uncle Sam sure won't help po raghead hatin me
Mirror mirror on the wall
who's the biggest raghead of em all
a puke named bin laden and there ain no doubt
That he's causin' lots of trouble with his baboon mouth.
You know it, and I'll show it,
stick your raghead out and I'll blow it..
And the PLO you see
can't wait to get its hands on raghead hatin me.

...


138 posted on 07/26/2005 5:27:28 AM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by a majority vote" Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: pepsionice

Someone on one of the talk shows yesterday made the same point, in essence, Muslims know that there isn't a Muslim country on the face of the earth where the road to success in life can be found. Only in the free world and most especially in the west and double especially in the US.

To acknowledge that the western/Christian world has the road map to what they are all seeking, is so foreign to them that they cannot admit and submit to the truth. They would rather come here and suck up their success all the while attempting to assist in the return of the seventh century.

...and that is what the solution is, renounce Islam and remain. Or fail to do so and depart my homeland before you find out how much we value the country that our forefathers paid for with their own blood.


139 posted on 07/26/2005 5:50:50 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Seems to me that the ones who want to leave are the ones who keep calling themselves "moderate." Which might mean that the remaining 1/3 would be the hard-core Islamicists... making them that much easier for the Brits to flush out, since they won't have a populace of "moderates" in which to hide. This could be a good thing...
140 posted on 07/26/2005 5:53:09 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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