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1 posted on 07/25/2005 4:34:39 PM PDT by StoneGiant
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75 posted on 07/28/2005 5:55:31 AM PDT by foreverfree
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In this matter, like the Social Security tax hike/swindle of the Reagan era, Moynihan demonstrated that he was one of the last liberals capable of dealing with hard facts and the lies of big-government solutions gone awry.

I think the article should have dealt more with the role of feminazis and child advocates and the strong Hillary connection with both movements. And Hillary's it-takes-a-village crap is pretty fully refuted here implicitly.
82 posted on 07/29/2005 6:30:44 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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Thanks for posting that. I heard the author speak on our local Talk Radio this week. She was brilliant, articulate and on top of her game.


84 posted on 07/29/2005 6:54:59 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: StoneGiant; wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; ..
From time to time, I’ll ping on noteworthy articles about politics, foreign and military affairs. FReepmail me if you want on or off my list. This is a long, but interesting read.

Liability Shield for Gunmakers Near Passage

They are counting votes as I write on a dem substitute bill. Say a prayer for a clean bill!

85 posted on 07/29/2005 1:46:40 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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The Democratic Party, in their "infinite wisdom," thought that keeping black America under their dependent thumb would engender and beholden us unto them forever. They couched their insidious plan within Civil Rights legislation.

I'm not going to go as far as to say that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 should not have been crafted -- black America needed that. Otherwise, the remainder of the 60s and 70s would have been far more bloody than they were.

However, they (Liberals) did not count on the truth and reality of logical thought.

We, as a people, are beginning to rise from the intellectual shackles that have been placed upon us by the patriarcal liberals who have styled themselves as our protectors. We are soundly smacked by the black elite who do not see the logic of stepping beyond the ties that continue to bind many minds.

But times are changing...

Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

87 posted on 07/29/2005 3:37:00 PM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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later reading bump. Thanks for posting this.


88 posted on 07/29/2005 3:49:56 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/janicerogersbrown.htm)
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bttt


92 posted on 07/29/2005 7:16:00 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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Bump for later reading.


95 posted on 07/30/2005 12:44:55 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin
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read later


97 posted on 07/30/2005 1:26:50 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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Discriminate, it is on my to do list every day.
107 posted on 07/30/2005 7:20:14 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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Here ya go, Rick, if you actually give a rat's tail about solving this country's problems -- which you don't -- rather acquiring power through fear and division


108 posted on 07/30/2005 7:20:23 AM PDT by Tribune7
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70% of black births are single parent - says it all. Generation to generation of expectant welfare - free food - free house - free education - free sex - all of it budgeted to comply with the monthly government stipend.


114 posted on 07/30/2005 8:14:56 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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Whew! That was a long read, but worth it. We were right and the liberals were wrong, and the proof has always been right there in front of everybody's face. And it still is.
Thanks for posting this.
BUMP!


115 posted on 07/30/2005 8:34:57 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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118 posted on 07/30/2005 1:45:29 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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From the article
So, have we reached the end of the Moynihan report saga? That would be vastly overstating matters. Remember: 70 percent of black children are still born to unmarried mothers
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In ghetto communities like Central Harlem, the number was closer to 80 percent.
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Both NOW and the National Association of Social Workers continue to see marriage as a potential source of female oppression. The Children’s Defense Fund still won’t touch the subject. Hip-hop culture glamorizes ghetto life: “ ’cause nowadays it’s like a badge of honor/to be a baby mama” go the words to the current hit “Baby Mama,” which young ghetto mothers view as their anthem. Seriously complicating the issue is the push for gay marriage, which dismissed the formula “children growing up with their own married parents” as a form of discrimination.

When a ship has become so full of water that it is 70% sunk, what are the chances of righting it again?

Things in the black inner cities aren't going to be changing any time soon. What can the white folks on the outside offer? Yet _another_ social program? Another social agency?

There really isn't much that can be done for the "black family/illegitimacy problem", other than ensure that its plague be kept isolated to specific areas. In that sense, the inner city ghettos serve a de-facto purpose, by keeping the black underclass concentrated, confined, and separated from the rest of society (including blacks who try to live in the "normal" culture of marriage, work, and family). Those blacks who have sense enough to escape or resist the pervasive underculture that surrounds them will succeed in doing so regardless of "outside attempts" to help them. The rest will sink into the ghetto life no matter what efforts we propose to save them, all the while drowned in the brutish noise of rap (one could never call it "music").

The article concludes:
All told, the nation is at a cultural inflection point that portends change

Wishful thinking. With illegitimacy rates at 70-80%, the vast majority of children being born in these places will likely never know a "real family". Nor will the politically-correct schools attempt to educate them as to what a "traditional family" _is_.

Society can't hope for good lumber from bad timber. So long as 70% of the seed is bad from the start, the timber will remain tainted. A difficult truth - but a truth nonetheless.

- John

127 posted on 08/01/2005 7:11:47 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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So why does the Times, like so many who rail against inequality, fall silent on the relation between poverty and single-parent families?

Liberal welfare policies caused the single parent problem. From 1890 up until the '60's, black marriage rates were about the same as whites.

When liberals substituted a welfare check for a father, the problems started. And yes, it affected poor whites too, but not in the same devastation percentages.

The problems of the black community can be laid at the feet of modern liberals.

129 posted on 08/01/2005 8:30:01 AM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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Bookmarked. Thanks...


132 posted on 08/01/2005 9:35:49 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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bump.


133 posted on 08/08/2005 2:55:15 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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