Posted on 07/25/2005 3:22:39 PM PDT by Alex Marko
It is probably not a good idea in terms of job security to publicly call your boss a horse's ass. So have some sympathy for Will Adams, spokesman for Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo. He was asked by reporters to explain the asinine thing the congressman said last week. Adams told them Tancredo is just a "free thinker." By which standard Michael Jackson is just a tad eccentric. Or haven't you heard? Tancredo thinks maybe the United States should bomb Mecca. You know Mecca. City in Saudi Arabia. Birthplace of the prophet Muhammad. Holiest shrine of Islam, a religion practiced by one of every six people on Earth. That's the place a U.S. congressman thinks maybe we should lob some ordnance at.
Tancredo made this contribution to the national dialogue last week during a talk show on WFLA, a TV station in Orlando, Fla. Host Pat Campbell had asked how we should respond if U.S. cities are ever struck by terrorists using nuclear devices. "Well," said Tancredo, "what if you said something like, if this happens in the United States, and we determine that it is the result of extremist, fundamentalist Muslims, you know, you could take out their holy sites."
"You're talking about bombing Mecca," said Campbell.
"Yeah," said Tancredo.
Predictably, Tancredo's suggestion has been a little controversial. That is, if you can call statements of condemnation stretching from Moscow to the State Department to Ankara, Turkey, "a little controversial."
Tancredo has refused to apologize, but he did issue a written "clarification," which said in part, "I do not advocate this. Much more thought would need to be given to the potential ramifications of such a horrific response."
Actually, you don't need to give any thought to the ramifications of such an action, because they should be self-evident to anyone smarter than the average hamster. We would become an international pariah. Muslims would hate us with renewed fervor, and Osama bin Laden would thank us for writing his recruitment material.
In other words, the same situation we have now, except worse. Much, much, much worse.
And I wonder: Am I the only who feels that lately - lately being defined as since Sept. 11, 2001 - the nation seems overrun by yahoos?
Granted, the presence of yahoos in daily life is not a new torment. They have always been among us, the simplemindedness of their thinking exceeded only by the volume at which they express it. Think Cliff Clavin, the cogs of his brain lubricated by beer, holding forth from his stool at the end of the bar. Of course, the only thing you had to do to avoid Cliff was to stay out of Cheers.
But the 9/11 attacks have unleashed yahooism on an unprecedented scale. Cliff is no longer confined to his bar stool. Under the name Mona Charen, he once wrote a newspaper column advocating the expulsion of Muslims from America. Under the name Rush Limbaugh, he has a radio talk show on which he compared the torture of prisoners at Abu Ghraib to a fraternity prank. Under the name Ann Coulter, he calls for the racial profiling of travelers from the Middle East. And under the name Tom Tancredo, he is apparently a member of Congress.
What he doesn't get - what yahoos usually don't get - is that things that seem to make sense while you're hoisting a few rarely hold up in the sober light of day.
Tancredo has cast his refusal to apologize as a blow against political correctness. Which is silly. One can be plain-spoken without being reckless, blunt without being stupid, straight-forward without sounding like a fool.
Assuming, that is, you have something worthwhile to say. Tancredo evidently does not. Somebody tell him his beer is getting warm.
King of the Quislings has arrived.
But not having just fallen off the turnip truck myself, the faux outrage and hair pulling and misrepresentation by the purists is scarier than what Tancredo said.
your second post is even more far fetched than your first.
There might be retaliation aginst Iran or N. Korea, but what if there is no conenction from the terrorists to any nation. I would bet no retailiation
Tancredo hasn't said anything that is not very common here on FR. So if you think he's a crazy wingnut, then I guess you think that most FReepers are too?
Tancredo is precisely what the stupid party needs, not hand-wringing pussises who throw open the borders.
Tom is just saying what many are thinking but are too PC-whipped to say.
no connection from the terrorists to any nation
Typical Western logic applied to Islam. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE COUNTING ON, EINSTEIN.
So Tancredo was being honest. I would have no problem with turning Mecca into a crater if we were hit with a nuke.
Well I have to accept the responsibility for suggesting the Vaporization of Mecca last year! The expulsion of Muslims from the US has also been one of the drums I have banged on many times. I believe I have stated that the US was founded on Judeo/Christian fundamentals and Islam and Christianity are like mixing oil and water. I'm not backing down either!! I'm standing with Rep Tancredo.
I think this is difinitly some food for thought for the Muslims to chew on! To think that we as a predominatly Christian country atr going to just stand by and allow our wives and children to be blown up, to be brain washed by the Socialist Leberal Left into a somnambulistic stupor of compliance with the Islamic religion and Socialism is beyond my comprehension. This is what is happening!
We are and have been massaged into thinking we should accept Homosexuality, Same Sex Marriage by the same methods as the Muslims are using to attack our basic Judeo/Christian beliefs that this country was founded upon.
You all have read articles posted here by many individuals about how the Muslims want to come here to this country and live in Peace. A PIECE of our Jude/Christian basic fundamentals must be compromised in order to do this. Do you think a Muslim will lay down his life to protect the rights of a Christian to practice his religion??? Think again!
If they are allowed to reach a majority in this country or in any state or sector of this country and you do not convert to Islam, then the best you can hope to achieve is a second class citizenship, otherwise it is slavery or death.
You don't believe me. Then listen to the IMAM telling the Brits on FOX news tonight, something like: If you do not pull your troops out of Iraq, then your blood will run in your streets. So Christians, Deny Jesus CHrist and accept Islam, Otherwise.....
So is it Vaporize Mecca, Deportation of the Muslims or Slavery and/or death at the hands of the Muslims!
HELLO!! Wake up America!!
Tancredo is the worst thing to hit the GOP in a long while. He will just hurt the GOP in 08.
my point is that we would not be able to draw any connection between a terrorist nuclear attack and the sponsorship of a nation...they will make sure there are no tracks leading back to say Iran.
There will be no bombing of Mecca...IF the west goes to war against all 1.3 billion muslims, it is a war the west and the USA will surely lose
Hugh Hewitt was still screaming about it today. He even had on a person from CAIR today. Needless to say, I left him. This is like pouring gasoline on a fire.
I listen to him all the time, but I can't now. Does he need this kind of c*** to get his numbers up, or what?
Give it a rest, Hugh.
Oh, the horror!
He assumes the wrongness of Anns position is obvious to all except the yahoos, when in fact, the rightness of her position is probably obvious to even him when hes alone with his thoughts. Nobody is delusional enough to fear Scandinavian Lutheran terrorists. Not even an idiot like you, Leonard
OK.
Let's take that brilliant statement to its logical conclusion.
What if there were no connection from the terrible accident that results to any nation? No one would be touchable for that either. Right?
Right?
Hello??
"I would wager that the majority of anti-immigrant, anti-business, and anti-Bush yahoos are Democratic voters anyway,"
Uh, that is anti-ILLEGAL immigrants, and anti-CROOKED businessmen.
"They were speaking about a multiple city, multiple device attack. I guarantee you that in this type of a case, a submarine would nuke Mecca.
Youre dreaming....I am willing to bet that there would be no retaliation before I'd bet on bombing mecca"
Oh, there'd be retaliation all right. The CIA and the Pentagon, portrayed as fools and incompetents by the left wingers must be chafing and spitting mad, but harnessed by Bush. Revenge for revenge's sake doesn't fit WWIII after all.
It wouldn't be Mecca. But it might be Medina. Or one of the religious sites in Iraq. One of the prominent ayatollahs in Iran might vanish. One of the current pro Arab Gerald Bulls might meet up with a headful of .25s at close range. There'd be some measure that wouldn't satisfy the proles who adhere to only the MSM.
But the news would travel and be trashed with appropriate British sneers by Auntie Beeb, Reuters, the Times, and then picked up by our fellow travellers here. I'd expect however, that there'd be no substantiation. Our guys can be pretty good.
Remember that we've not been hit since 2001. And the good guys aren't telling why.
How could anyone prove that?
My view, based on recent experience in a world bent on total madness is that even a nuclear explosion in the U.S. would be claimed by the ROP to have been initiated by... the U.S.
On the other hand, it's possible that simultaneous massive nuclear detonations on every muslim capital could be both possible and accidental.
And unattributable. It's possible.
""It wouldn't be Mecca. But it might be Medina. Or one of the religious sites in Iraq.""
It wont be any of that.
""Remember that we've not been hit since 2001. And the good guys aren't telling why.""
and you think it is cuz we've threatened to nuke mecca?
What would probably happen after the nuking of a US city would by wholesale slaughter of every muslim in the US...I think there would probably be 48-96 hours of anarchy, in which time there would be more casualities than in the original nuking
Welcome to Free Republic troll.
Such an asinine statement could only come from the same place that "mother of all battles" originated: arrogant and terminal muslim delusion.
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