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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 9
Various News Outlets | 7/25/05

Posted on 07/25/2005 7:17:04 AM PDT by TexKat

Natalee Holloway and friends in Aruba 5/30/05


TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; joran; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; satish; twitty
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To: Rippersnapper

There's alot of speculation and out and out inaccuracies in that "timeline". It's worthless. Have you got a link to the h and C transcript? I assume you checked it out to make sure.


741 posted on 07/26/2005 12:38:20 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: gingersnaps

Thank you

I believe that there is a lot we don't know. For some reason, Joran is still being held. Could be something big, or merely the fact that he kept changing his story. Natalees family seem to have no doubt that he is involved. And I'm sure that they know more than they are saying in public.


742 posted on 07/26/2005 12:39:03 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Abigail Adams
Your lack of logic, and basic common sense, is astounding.

And your lack of comprehension of previous posts on previous threads is...telling.

[Trying to set Miz Abigail straight is going to be tedious, so for those of you with little patience or who simply aren't interested, here's a kindly meant suggestion: Use your SCROLL function and skip this.]

My posts (and a couple of Rippersnapper's in response) did not address what sociopathy IS. They addressed what sociopathy ISN'T.

And they were very sprecifically addressed to Gary's portrayal of Joran vdS as a "sociopath," based on (a) some teenaged boy behavior that is quite typical and (b) a slew of anonymous, malicious rumors.

I don't mean to be snarky

Funny. Whenever anybody says "I don't mean to be [fill in the blank]," you can be sure that that person is about to be [fill in the blank].

Maybe you like to keep bringing up your son because talking about how good-looking and wonderful he is makes you look good, or so you think?

You missed the point entirely. I listed both "bad" and "good" traits of my son in order to compare him to what we know about Joran. (Since you seem to be envious, comfort yourself that I also have two relatively nerdy sons --and how many times have I mentioned that already? Ten?)

And please note: I don't keep "bringing up" my son. Others keep bringing him up (most of them also having entirely missed my point in comparing him with Joran)...

...and I (obviously in mostly "futile" hope of reasonable conversation with some posters), make the mistake of keeping on responding to them. (To those of you who've been supportive both in public and private posts --thanks!)

I have to leave now to do mom things, but snark away. It's soooo much fun for some of you to be malicious, and far be it from me to deprive you of that little bit of joy in your lives.

743 posted on 07/26/2005 12:45:32 PM PDT by gingersnaps
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To: monkeywrench; TexKat
There's alot of speculation and out and out inaccuracies in that "timeline". It's worthless. Have you got a link to the h and C transcript? I assume you checked it out to make sure.

I was just pointing out innacuracies in that timeline earlier in this very thread, so, you won't get any arguements from me on that one! Assume all you want, that was the job of the original poster. :)

Texkat, monkeywrench wants to know if have a link to the H&C transcript and if you checked it out for accuracy?

744 posted on 07/26/2005 12:46:42 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: nuntukamen

There are links beginning on thread one to all kinds of info about aruba. You can begin by googling Aruba and transnational crime or Aruba drug dealing.

This thread has gone on since the beginning. There is much info on this issue if you read through all the threads. There is no thumbnail.


745 posted on 07/26/2005 12:51:49 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Designer

Who do I very much want to believe?

The prosecutor? I don't know much other than what I have read so I don't know what I would like to believe.

Jossy? I don't believe anything he says, he has his own agenda.

So who are you referring to?


746 posted on 07/26/2005 12:53:16 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: All

FOX news is reporting at LEAST 3 new witnesses have come forward - Something big will break in the case this week per Natalee's family. Jug says there is a lot of talking going on, on the island.


747 posted on 07/26/2005 12:53:52 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: nuntukamen

Actually the credit for bringing up Pitcairn is due another poster.

I suspect our human civilization is more sophisticated and kinder than these boys or any other rapist. So we differ on that.

But Mawg and I agree on the subtle and not so subtle bashing of the home folks, friends and family of Natalee.


748 posted on 07/26/2005 12:56:20 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: countryconservative
Note to self:

If a love one comes up missing... Offer a huge award for their safe return and a smaller but sizable reward for information of the relatives where abouts right from the start.
749 posted on 07/26/2005 12:57:24 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: countryconservative

Do you think, maybe they're trying to pressure joran, who reportedly has access to papers and tv, now?


750 posted on 07/26/2005 12:58:10 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: countryconservative

hmmmm....wonder who the third one is. Wait! Wasn't it said that there is a witness who can tell everyone where Natalee is buried? Maybe Satish or Deepak...wanting the reward money. ugh


751 posted on 07/26/2005 12:58:24 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: countryconservative

If these witnesses are legit, then why in Heck didn't they come forward before???


752 posted on 07/26/2005 12:58:28 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: countryconservative

Jug said that last night too. I hope he is right. Over at SM they are talking about the landfill. I don't know if they are discussing due to something they saw on FOX or MSNBC, or if it just came up. (heading back in...)


753 posted on 07/26/2005 12:58:35 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Andy'smom; antceecee; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggief; Fritzy; truthluva; ...
From Sm:

according to Studio B FOX News, ........witness claims he can take authorities to the body. Jug (from On the Record last night)...since he's been in Aruba for the past 24 hours, things are starting to happen. People are starting to talk. Jug feels like something is about to happen..........

754 posted on 07/26/2005 1:01:38 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

>>........witness claims he can take authorities to the body<<

Is this the new "third" witness??


755 posted on 07/26/2005 1:04:07 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: sissyjane
Is this the new "third" witness??

Don't know sissyjane. I am tvless at the present.

756 posted on 07/26/2005 1:06:37 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Jrabbit
yawn

Yes, we know, you have a chick magnet son which makes YOU an expert. All that's missing is his photo with girls pawing him.

Hmm somethings are so predictable, like hunting rabbits, if you loose sight of them just look where you first saw them, they will run in circles until they are back "home".....

757 posted on 07/26/2005 1:07:34 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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From Sm:

Anyone catch the mention of Aruban investigators being in the US at a police HQ who specializes in TOOLS...looking at ones that may have been used in the case?

758 posted on 07/26/2005 1:08:16 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: uncitizen

When these witnesses saw what happened to cruz guy from what I understand it scared them...now that there's alot of money involved....guess they've overcome their fright.


759 posted on 07/26/2005 1:09:33 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: All
From Sm:

Shep also stated that thanks to the newest witness, they are searching additional locations.

So that and the tools (plus the ongoing FBI analysis) is all that was mentioned.

760 posted on 07/26/2005 1:12:11 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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