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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 9
Various News Outlets | 7/25/05

Posted on 07/25/2005 7:17:04 AM PDT by TexKat

Natalee Holloway and friends in Aruba 5/30/05


TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; joran; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; satish; twitty
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To: LongViewSC

Yes!


1,721 posted on 07/27/2005 6:03:54 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: TexKat

Just a thought here. Could those criminals have been circling the Raquet Club waiting for PVDS as he could have Nat in his rental home or at JVDS's apartment? Maybe..


1,722 posted on 07/27/2005 6:04:19 PM PDT by Li-Li (Induct Roger Maris into the Baseball Hall Of Fame)
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To: Lizarde

check this out...

http://www.digicelaruba.com/products/product.php?product_display=digichat


1,723 posted on 07/27/2005 6:05:29 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: TexKat

Does anyone know the religious background of the Kalpoe brothers?


1,724 posted on 07/27/2005 6:08:44 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: elli1

You are right - Joran Van der Sloot is in custody until at LEAST September 4th!!


1,725 posted on 07/27/2005 6:10:24 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Lizarde; maggief; All

some Digichat info

What is my nickname when I first sign in?

Your nickname is the last four digits of your phone number. It will stay like that until the user changes it.

Can I create my own private room?

Yes, you can create your own room and invite your friends to join you but it will still be open for other chatters to join.

Is the chat room censored?

No. It is very difficult to censor a chat room so what we have done is barred anyone sending their phone number in its entirety, but users are known by the last 4 digits of their phone number. However if a user is reported to be abusing the service we will bar them from future use of the service.


1,726 posted on 07/27/2005 6:16:26 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: gubamyster; cajungirl
I find it hard to believe that 17-20 year old guys with a dead body to dispose of would be thinking so clearly & rational.

Guys that live in the continuing parade of girls that come to Aruba...and guys that take advantage of that parade, are older than their actual age.

If these guys are sexual players, they have imagined the downside and what they might do if things go wrong.

That's what make predation so exciting.

Danger added to sex makes sex much more powerful. Evil sex, that is.

1,728 posted on 07/27/2005 6:17:31 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Lizarde

That's what I thought but there are many Muslims in Suriname as well.

Hpw sure are you that they are Hindu?


1,729 posted on 07/27/2005 6:24:49 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Dark Skies

Yikes I just can't seem to get caught up. I was still reading in the 1400's so I'm gonna skip over a couple hundred posts to here. I have to leave my office now but WILL BE BACK LATER. I am anxious to see the shows tonight. Greta, Nancy, Scarborough etc.!! My husband (the Lawyer) wants to watch THE DOG!! LOL!!


1,730 posted on 07/27/2005 6:25:41 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Dark Skies

They might have been smooth as silk in forcing themselves on young girls,,,but murdere? Nobody is smooth about murder unless he works for murder for hire. Especially a first time killer of teen age.


1,731 posted on 07/27/2005 6:26:07 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: All

http://www.digicelaruba.com/coverage/ABW_images/map.jpg

Can anyone explain what the difference is in Outdoor and In Car Coverage?

I think I know what it means - you have to have a special antenna on your car (for a stronger signal since towers are farther away) to pick up the service in the Yellow In Car area's - Green areas would mean larger (eye sore) towers are in abundance in the green areas.


1,733 posted on 07/27/2005 6:26:17 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: eleni121

I thought they were Hindu. Seems I read it somewhere. Not sure.


1,734 posted on 07/27/2005 6:27:01 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Lizarde; Palladin
Palladin: but...but...but..LEA are saying that the time on the computer was tampered with...adjusted by Deepcrap to make it APPEAR he was home by 3 a.m.

Lizarde: are you serious - where did you hear that - more and more interesting

Palladin: I heard it on one of the talk shows...probably Scarborough...because he has NEW information almost every night, while Greta keeps going over the same old ground.

I don't think it was the ALe that ALE has stated anything about the computers being tampered with. This was being tossed around on Nancy Grace on Monday night.

NANCY GRACE

GRACE: Well, Penny Douglass Furr, I mean, the reality is, the time line is not written in stone. You`re talking to a bunch of teenagers who think she left Carlos and Charlie`s at a certain time. This guy thinks he saw the guys at a certain time, nearly sideswiped them.

The only time that could be set in stone is the time on their computer, these three suspects` computers, and even that could be tampered with, Penny.

PENNY DOUGLASS FURR, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, you`re right, Nancy. However, it`s my understanding that, if you get the hard drive, and you have a computer expert, they can tell exactly when those messages were sent, even if they have been tampered with.

And I also would check Mr. Van Der Sloot`s phone. I understand he sent an urgent call to the Kalpoe brothers on that very same night. And I would like to know why he was sending an urgent call to the Kalpoe brothers.

GRACE: Of course, T.J. Ward, unless it was all a setup, and all these IM instant messaging, and phone calls, and all that between cell phones was just a cover-up to throw people off the timeline, the true timeline, T.J.

1,735 posted on 07/27/2005 6:27:32 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: countryconservative
I forgot that the cellphones are top of the line there in Aruba they allow for Cellphone chatrooms like computer chatrooms.

As usual, I'm trying to catch up. But if this is the case it certainly isn't any great mystery on the island, why were the brothers released? It seems most corruption theories are based on PVDS and his relationships but his son is still in jail. The brothers can't be out on such flimsy evidence, can they?

I'll offer up two possibilities. One they let the brothers out so they wouldn't break and further implicate Joran. (Just let it be Joran's problem to lie his way out of.) Two, there is another person involved, one who has a relationship with the brothers and has had some hand in orchestrating this.

1,736 posted on 07/27/2005 6:32:06 PM PDT by Dolphy
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Fox Update

Fox reporting authorities claim pond won't be completely drained until tomorrow. They also confirm the search is related to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The bottom will not be fully visible until tomorrow.


1,737 posted on 07/27/2005 6:32:30 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: TexKat
Jossy thinks that PVDS made the right decision to walk away.

Im still trying to catch up after being gone all day and having to leave again in a few minutes, but what does Jossy mean by PVDS 'walking away'? I really want to know!

1,738 posted on 07/27/2005 6:36:05 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: cajungirl
As you have said before...rohypnol combined with asthma (all conjecture of course) would mean a possible fatality. Given the islands loved of date rape drugs and Nat's rumored respiratory problems (or not) could have just tipped the scales.

But I suggest rape is a form of murder, particular if a date rape drug is used. It is almost necrophilia...it is on that continuum..."lay still girl (act dead) while I satisfy myself."

Rape and necrophilia and even narcissism are all about satisfaction of self. Aruba is an island of self-satisfaction. People that go there seek it...and those that live there use that need to satisfy their needs.

1,739 posted on 07/27/2005 6:38:19 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Palladin

Greta told O'Reilly she's got some exclusive news about the story tonite. She usually is ahead of everyone else from what i can tell. She's a go getter.


1,740 posted on 07/27/2005 6:38:53 PM PDT by uncitizen
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