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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 9
Various News Outlets | 7/25/05

Posted on 07/25/2005 7:17:04 AM PDT by TexKat

Natalee Holloway and friends in Aruba 5/30/05


TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; joran; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; satish; twitty
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To: truthluva

:), thank you truthluva!!


101 posted on 07/25/2005 9:34:34 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: maggief; Former

Okay, Lee Broughton, appears to be the girl who was standing watching Natalee on the stage at C&C's. Joran appeared to be standing next to Lee. Lee can confirm the picture.


102 posted on 07/25/2005 9:35:16 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: sarasota; TexKat
No, sarasota..it was TexKat who posted that a witness has come forward to say where the body was :)

I HAVE to leave the house and you can be certain since I'll be gone, something will break, LOL.

sw

103 posted on 07/25/2005 9:35:43 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: sarasota
Wonder how msnbc got a witness. My understanding was that Fox staffers were the only media left on the island.

RWV:

Channel 13 News in Bham is an NBC affiliate. They have had local reporters down on the island since the beginning. It was a live report from Aruba with the reporter that told the news.

Ch 13 talks mainly with the local members of the family - the aunt. They don't talk too much with the parents.
104 posted on 07/25/2005 9:39:55 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: GarySpFc

That's not JvdS in the CnC photo with Lee and Natalee, different plaid shirt.


105 posted on 07/25/2005 9:41:34 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
did it see/hear something that disturbed him and affected him in a ptsd manner? I'd like to know if the neighbors returned home and found their pet inexplicably changed....

I love to see something I haven't seen before, that's a great question. This has probably been mentioned but in the States when someone is thought or found out to be 'an awful criminal' all the neighbors come out and say "oh, I couldn't believe that was him" or, "there was always something off about that one" Neighbors aren't saying ANYthing here.

106 posted on 07/25/2005 9:42:21 AM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: TexKat

Here's the Today Show video reporting on the new witness who knows where the body is located.

http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?i=4f968908-c7e3-45d2-95f1-f4ff6f39ed2c,62378dec-21db-4afa-8f76-d68b6de855d6,919edacc-e319-4e0e-9e3c-fe95ad9901c1&m=News%20-%20Weather&mi=NBC%20News&rf=http://nataleeholloway.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=1251


107 posted on 07/25/2005 9:48:11 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
"Good point MAWG. Maybe this reward money is looking good to some of the working class Arubans who know something"

I believe another incentive might be the Twittys changed the tipline number to a US number. They don't need to go through ALE, anymore. Someone, correct me where I'm wrong. Seems like I caught the tail end of a report on this.

108 posted on 07/25/2005 9:48:25 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Jrabbit

"" I too think Greta knows that monkey is important. In case it suddenly disappears or unfortunately dies, she's got it on tape, etc.""

That's a great point, Jrabbit.


109 posted on 07/25/2005 10:01:56 AM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Pepper777; cajungirl

Thanks....but cajungirl actually gave me the idea! I hadn't thought a thing about Greta feeding that unfortunate creature beyond the fact that she felt sorry for it.


110 posted on 07/25/2005 10:19:50 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: TexKat; countryconservative

SM:

Teo wrote:
Today on Canal 90 (a radio station) in Aruba reported that the hair found on the duct tape was NOT Natalee's.

(not Teo but his wife) SE


111 posted on 07/25/2005 10:24:36 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: spectre

"I can't believe she was ever left alone to make a phone call."

Could've been left alone bcse she was still unconscious from the drug, then came to and grabbed a phone to call for help.


112 posted on 07/25/2005 10:24:58 AM PDT by MonaMars
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To: maggief

FNC reporting hair tests are unsuccessful.


113 posted on 07/25/2005 10:32:01 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: All

Karin Janssen self delivers evidence

ARUBA – In her vacation baggage, Karin Janssen has evidence pertaining to the Holloway-case. She is on vacation and went to the Netherlands a few days ago.

Mariaine Croes, spokesperson of the OM: “She is actually on vacation. But because she was going to the Netherlands anyway, she took the evidence with her.” The Dutch Forensic Institute will investigate the evidence, which probably includes the much-spoken duct tape with blond hair. It is not sure whether Janssen will deliver the evidence to the Forensic Institute herself. According to Croes, it is not unusual that evidence is hand carried to the Netherlands. Usually, it is specially packed and shipped, but sometimes a persons hand carries it, which is safer. The Dutch Forensic Institute is part of the ministry of Justice. It does technical-scientific investigation in criminal cases. Public Prosecutor Amalin Flanegin, together with two detectives that lead the investigation in Aruba will go to the United States to work with the FBI on the investigation.

By order of the Oduber-cabinet FBI gets the complete Holloway-file

ARUBA – Prime Minister Nelson Oduber and Justice-minister Rudy Croes had ordered the attorney general to open up all the files to the FBI. The order was done in writing to the head of the Aruban Public Prosecution.

According to the letter, the attorney general has to “take all recourses to a legal remedy in order to continue to guarantee the involvement of the FBI in the investigation of the disappearance of Natalee. This involvement has to be completely, which means that the FBI should have access to all interrogation reports, films, recordings, and all the evidence material that is linked to the investigation. In short: the file is open to the FBI as far as our legal system permits.” If the investigation phase obstructs the involvement, the attorney general is explicitly instructed “to do everything the law permits to procure and guarantee this involvement of the FBI. That’s why we authorize you to acquire external experts if necessary.” The letter concludes with the phrase: “there should not be any doubt that Aruba guarantees the full cooperation with the American authorities within the margin of her own legal system, as already is since the beginning of the case.” The Justice-ministry had spread the letter amongst the media last Friday afternoon, after the chief district attorney, Karin Janssen left for vacation. Also police commissioner Jan van der Straten is off the case. Yesterday was his last day.

114 posted on 07/25/2005 10:34:16 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: maggief

Nancy Grace is just going to shite!!


115 posted on 07/25/2005 10:37:04 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Andy'smom; antceecee; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggief; Fritzy; truthluva; ...

FNC reporting hair tests are unsuccessful per Freeper maggief.


116 posted on 07/25/2005 10:38:36 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: maggief

I'd have more faith in those test results if the FBI had been allowed access to the evidence right away.


117 posted on 07/25/2005 10:38:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: TexKat

I read this report on websleuths last night. Some Dutch correspondent said preliminary results were negative as belonging to Natalee....the poster didn't know the name of this Dutch guy...Hienrick Van Der something.


118 posted on 07/25/2005 10:43:02 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: maggief

FNC reporting hair tests are unsuccessful.


Wonder what this means? Unsuccessful in determining if they are Natalee's or not? Not enough to examine? DNA not clear enough to report either way?


119 posted on 07/25/2005 10:47:20 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: TexKat

SM:

Josie just reported this on fox..

The gardener was driving slowly cause deepaks car was blocking the road..He got a great look in the car and it was only those 3 in the car no natalee.(I still think she coulda been in the back seat hidden as satish jumped forward to block the right part of the car)Also stated that joran said that deepak was in charge.Was in charge of the burial??He said yes..

He spent weeks tryin to convince the gardner to come forward as he was very scared.Scared of what?He said to be immplicated in a murder investigation..Josie had to convince him it was safe and had a team of his people pick him up to o to the polis..Where he signed a sworn statement..


120 posted on 07/25/2005 10:48:42 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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