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All Quiet on the Home Front, and Some Soldiers Are Asking Why
NY Slimes ^ | 7/24/05 | THOM SHANKER

Posted on 07/24/2005 1:37:50 PM PDT by lowbridge

The Bush administration's rallying call that America is a nation at war is increasingly ringing hollow to men and women in uniform, who argue in frustration that America is not a nation at war, but a nation with only its military at war.

From bases in Iraq and across the United States to the Pentagon and the military's war colleges, officers and enlisted personnel quietly raise a question for political leaders: if America is truly on a war footing, why is so little sacrifice asked of the nation at large?

There is no serious talk of a draft to share the burden of fighting across the broad citizenry, and neither Republicans nor Democrats are pressing for a tax increase to force Americans to cover the $5 billion a month in costs from Iraq, Afghanistan and new counterterrorism missions.

There are not even concerted efforts like the savings-bond drives or gasoline rationing that helped to unite the country behind its fighting forces in wars past.

"Nobody in America is asked to sacrifice, except us," said one officer just back from a yearlong tour in Iraq, voicing a frustration now drawing the attention of academic specialists in military sociology.

Members of the military who discussed their sense of frustration did so only when promised anonymity, as comments viewed as critical of the civilian leadership could end their careers. The sentiments were expressed in more than two dozen interviews and casual conversations with enlisted personnel, noncommissioned officers, midlevel officers, and general or flag officers in Iraq and in the United States.

Charles Moskos, a professor emeritus at Northwestern University specializing in military sociology, said: "My terminology for it is 'patriotism lite,' and that's what we're experiencing now in both political parties.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americahate; leftisthatemachine; nytimes; shanker; thomshanker
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1 posted on 07/24/2005 1:37:51 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

More pus from the chancre


2 posted on 07/24/2005 1:39:12 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles (mainstream extremist (Ha))
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To: lowbridge

One can always count on the bastards at the New York Slimes, to pick at scabs...
I wonder if they eat them?

Semper Fi


3 posted on 07/24/2005 1:40:30 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: lowbridge

What award should the NY Times get for its contribution to the war effort? Perhaps an autographed picture of bin Laden.


4 posted on 07/24/2005 1:41:03 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: river rat

And what sacrifice are the NYT bathhouse boys giving?


5 posted on 07/24/2005 1:41:43 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: lowbridge

Ugh! As IF anyone at the Slimes gives a rats behind about the ones on the front line.


6 posted on 07/24/2005 1:41:58 PM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: lowbridge
"Nobody in America is asked to sacrifice, except us," said one officer just back from a yearlong tour in Iraq, voicing a frustration now drawing the attention of academic specialists in military sociology."

He's right. There is not enough cheering from the sidelines. Not enough bed sheets slung out the window painted broadly with "Welcome Home Billy!" when one of "Ours" makes it home safely.

Markedman
7 posted on 07/24/2005 1:42:05 PM PDT by markedman (Lay me down to a watery grave)
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To: river rat

They never, never pass up a chance.


8 posted on 07/24/2005 1:42:11 PM PDT by dighton
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To: river rat

This is the best the syphillitic old grey whore can produce.
Pus from the Shanker.


Anonymous hand wringing from some pampered junior officer.


9 posted on 07/24/2005 1:42:45 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles (mainstream extremist (Ha))
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To: lowbridge
Thom Shanker has Roids..............
10 posted on 07/24/2005 1:43:01 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life....)
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To: lowbridge
Our servicemen (and women) might feel that way, but it is only because of the ridiculous behavior on part of the demoCREEPs and their sympathetic and pathetic friends in the media.

If the Slimes would try writing 1 (just 1!) positive story about what's going on in Iraq, then maybe -just maybe- they wouldn't be the doomsayers that they are.

11 posted on 07/24/2005 1:43:25 PM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: axes_of_weezles
Anonymous hand wringing from some pampered junior officer.

And you don't even know if he really exists.

12 posted on 07/24/2005 1:43:48 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: lowbridge
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...

When hell freezes over.

13 posted on 07/24/2005 1:44:22 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Wolfstar

This plays right into your thread today.


14 posted on 07/24/2005 1:45:45 PM PDT by Peach
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To: lowbridge

The reason it seems just the military is on a war footing and not the rest of the country, is because the left and their allies in the media are doing everything they can denigrate the military and their efforts..


15 posted on 07/24/2005 1:46:44 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Definition of Insanity- Political Correctness when applied in the War on Terror..)
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To: roses of sharon
Certainly not joining the military for fear that they would leave their buddies behind.
16 posted on 07/24/2005 1:48:13 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: lowbridge

Ahhhhhh, more "anonymous sources" from the NYT. The last thing a soldier in today's military would want is a draft. They take considerable pride in the fact that it's an all volunteer military and therefore the quality is far superior to what a draft military would be.


17 posted on 07/24/2005 1:48:49 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: markedman

Flashbacks of when I returned from Nam.


18 posted on 07/24/2005 1:49:34 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: lowbridge

Shanker/Chancre, same thing.


19 posted on 07/24/2005 1:50:35 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: lowbridge
why is so little sacrifice asked of the nation at large? There is no serious talk of a draft to share the burden of fighting across the broad citizenry, and neither Republicans nor Democrats are pressing for a tax increase to force Americans to cover the $5 billion a month in costs from Iraq, Afghanistan and new counterterrorism missions. There are not even concerted efforts like the savings-bond drives or gasoline rationing that helped to unite the country behind its fighting forces in wars past. "Nobody in America is asked to sacrifice, except us," said one officer just back from a yearlong tour in Iraq, voicing a frustration now drawing the attention of academic specialists in military sociology.

Academic specialists in military sociology are interested? Man, this IS a pressing concern. Must be fifty people intensely thinking about this in academia.

I find it very, very difficult to believe that our brave soldiers are on duty and getting pissed off thinking "Why aren't my parents paying higher taxes, in addition to the burden of me not being there? Why are Americans going on with their lives as normally as they can--I want them to suffer!"

This is a liberal agenda puff piece hiding in the shadows of some angry individuals and pretending to show "concern" for our fighting forces. I am sure some feel as described in the article, but there are as many different emotions and reactions in the military as anywhere else in our society.

So when will the NYT write a piece about how many more Americans than these are concerned about the anti-American attitude of democrats? "Why are they calling our people Nazis? Why aren't they cutting their pork barrel projects to pay for the war?"

20 posted on 07/24/2005 1:52:22 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dean won't call Osama guilty without a trial, but DeLay and Rove should be in jail)
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