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This sounds like a basic tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, but there are some disturbing facts concerning the conflicting newswire accounts.
1 posted on 07/23/2005 3:47:47 PM PDT by wagglebee
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Because it's impossible to know what really happened, it's hard to draw any useful conclusions or lessons. I'm guessing this is a waste of time to explore.


2 posted on 07/23/2005 3:50:43 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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SEOUL, South Korea (UPI) – A Korean Air Lines jumbo jet flying from New York to Seoul Wednesday with 269 people aboard, including a U.S. Congressman, was forced to land on Sakhalin, a Soviet-occupied island north of Japan, the government-run television said.

This guy is believing soviet TV?

4 posted on 07/23/2005 3:54:00 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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This sounds like a basic tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, but there are some disturbing facts concerning the conflicting newswire accounts.


What is so disturbing about that? On 9-11 ABC Radio news was reporting that a plane was sitting on the tarmac in Cleveland surrounded by police with terrorists on board. When Reagan was shot several new reports broadcast Brady was dead. During events like these news often gets misreported or garbled as various news groups rush to be "first" with the story. This conflicting newswire accounts happen all the time. What people need to keep in mind that is a whole industry that makes hundreds of millions of dollars annually selling these kinds of stories to the Deranged Left and the Paranoid Right. I am really disappointed in World Net Daily. I thought they were better then this.
5 posted on 07/23/2005 3:54:54 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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i'm tired of conspiracies that go no where.


6 posted on 07/23/2005 3:55:17 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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...including Congressman Larry McDonald.

Who just happened to be one of the most outspoken anti-Communist members of Congress. See my profile page.

7 posted on 07/23/2005 3:56:09 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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10 or more U.S. aircraft were shot down.

huh...huh...sure!

10 posted on 07/23/2005 3:59:40 PM PDT by Seeking the truth (0cents.com - Freep Stuff & Pajama Patrol Stuff)
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The American ambassador to the UN played the interception by Soviet pilots and then the order for the shoot-down.

Only the USSR/Russia could have been so paranoid.
12 posted on 07/23/2005 4:02:54 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("It Is Better To Have Loved And Lost Than To Be Married To A Psycho For The Rest Of Your Life")
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I guess all that debris and bodies the Japanese and South Koreans pulled from the ocean was just dumped there for the TV cameras.

More WorldNutDaily tin foil hat BS.

13 posted on 07/23/2005 4:05:01 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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This doesn't pass the smell test. I'm willing to credit plenty of conspiracy theories that the MSM has covered up, such as TWA 800, OKC, Vince Foster, Ron Brown, POW-MIAs, etc., etc. But there wasn't a hint of any of this in any of the stories I have read about the incident, and Ronald Reagan was no bill clinton or Jimmy Carter. He would not have hesitated to confront the Soviet Union if he knew they were secretly holding the plane's passengers prisoner.


15 posted on 07/23/2005 4:25:39 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I smell a scripted conflict here...


17 posted on 07/23/2005 4:35:48 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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Allow me a brief recollection.....you maky find it of interest. The day after, ( Sunday) the KAL plane was shot down, my wife was flying to Minneapolis for a 4 day business trip..so I took her to the airport. She was flying Northwest, out of JFK...and KAL at that time rented gates in the NW terminal at Kennedy. Her plane left from the gate next to where the KAL 007 had debarked the night before..very surreal experience...


18 posted on 07/23/2005 4:42:47 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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10 jets were shot down and wreckage was never found...
Well if the wreckage was never found, how do we know there weren't 200 of our jets shots down? Sounds to me like a massive coverup. Where IS the wreckage of 500 of our warplanes?
20 posted on 07/23/2005 5:00:26 PM PDT by The Brush
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The logic of the article makes no sense at the point where it says Would Reagen be commenting on a reported downing? (not that it makes more sense elsewhere).

As I understand it KAL is a Korean Airline, so what is the author talking about in terms of US technology? How would that be applicable to a Korean plane?

Thought the US did know something due to technology at the time, e.g. readings on where the aircraft was at the time of the incident, but what is there there to indicate anything other than that the plane was downed by a Soviet plane?

All that said were the "Helms memo" to be real it would be interesting to see what he would say about it.

Would be interesting to see him asked about it.

22 posted on 07/23/2005 5:02:10 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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World Net Daily seems determined to rid itself of whatever credibility it might have once had.


23 posted on 07/23/2005 5:05:31 PM PDT by PAR35
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Anything from WND should be taken with a grain of salt.


24 posted on 07/23/2005 5:11:29 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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The coverup is in the how come 007 was flying into Russian airspace. Fuel was short and costly. The pilots were taking a shortcut, and flying a great circle from Anchorage to Seoul. Elaborate explanations have been constructed of multiple errors in setting inputs to the autopilot to explain why they flew into Russia. These explanations do not pass the Occam's razor test.


28 posted on 07/23/2005 5:15:44 PM PDT by dr huer
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This sounds like a basic tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, but there are some disturbing facts concerning the conflicting newswire accounts.

EVERY news story I have ever read has had conflicting newswire accounts.

32 posted on 07/23/2005 5:24:35 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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There has been alot of stories, mostly tin foil stuff.

An easy way to clear this up is to talk to Colonel Osipovich, the pilot who shot it down.

He gave an interview to the NY Times in 1996.

He is still alive, pretty poor and retired.

His version is half assed with him both blaming his own side for screwing up while also blaming the korean airline (but not himself).

38 posted on 07/23/2005 5:49:48 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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Sounds to me like the typical confusion that results immediately after a major incident rather than some carefully orchestrated cover-up.


46 posted on 07/23/2005 6:58:57 PM PDT by rattrap
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52 posted on 07/23/2005 9:41:58 PM PDT by Rokke
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