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Attacks on UK will continue, radical cleric says
Reuters ^ | 7/23/05 | Gideon Long

Posted on 07/23/2005 7:07:39 AM PDT by ppaul

LONDON (Reuters) - Militant Islamists will continue to attack Britain until the government pulls its troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, one of the country's most outspoken Islamic clerics said on Friday.

Speaking 15 days after bombers killed over 50 people in London and a day after a series of failed attacks on the city's transport network, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed said the British capital should expect more violence.

"What happened yesterday confirmed that as long as the cause and the root problem is still there ... we will see the same effect we saw on July 7," Bakri said.

"If the cause is still there the effect will happen again and again," he said, adding he had no information about future attacks or contacts with people planning to carry out attacks.

Bakri, a Syrian-born cleric who has been vilified in Britain since 2001 when he praised the September 11 hijackers, said he did not believe the bombings and attempted attacks on London were carried out by British Muslims.

He condemned the killing of all innocent civilians but described attacks on British and U.S. troops in Muslim countries as "pro-life" and justified.

In an interview with Reuters, Bakri described Osama bin Laden, leader of the radical Islamist network al Qaeda, as "a sincere man who fights against evil forces".

Bakri said he would like Britain to become an Islamic state but feared he would be deported before his dream was realised.

"I would like to see the Islamic flag fly, not only over number 10 Downing Street, but over the whole world," he said.

MESSAGE OF PEACE ... MESSAGE OF WAR

A hate figure for the British tabloid press, the bearded and bespectacled Bakri said Islam contained "a message of peace for those who want to live with the Muslims in peace".

"But Islam is a message of war for those who declare war against Muslims," he said.

"I condemn any killing and any bombing against any innocent people in Britain or abroad, but I expect the British people to condemn the killing of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan."

However, asked about Islamist attacks on British and U.S. troops and on Israelis, he said: "If violence is pro-life I don't condemn it".

Britain has around 1,100 troops in Afghanistan and 8,500 in Iraq. Prime Minister Tony Blair supported the United States in its respective invasions of both countries in 2001 and 2003.

Bakri, a 46-year-old father of six, was born in Syria and lived in Lebanon and Saudi Arabia. When the Saudi government expelled him in 1985 he came to London.

Nicknamed "The Tottenham Ayatollah" after the area of north London in which he lives, he has infuriated many Britons with his firebrand speeches and refusal to condemn suicide bombings.

He founded the British branch of Hizb ut-Tahrir, which describes itself as a non-violent political party dedicated to creating an Islamic caliphate centred on the Middle East.

But he split from the group in 1996 and set up al Muhajiroun, which won notoriety in 2001 for celebrating the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon which killed nearly 3,000 people.

Bakri has Syrian and Lebanese citizenship and says he thinks the British government might deport him to one of those two countries in the wake of this month's bombings.

"But I think that would be political suicide for the British government if they started to deport and imprison all extremists and radicals," he said.

"Because if, God forbid, something happened again, they would have nobody left to blame."


TOPICS: United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bakri; deportnow; islamaniacs; islamofascists; jihadinengland; koranimals; londonattacked; radicalmuslims; trop; ukmuslims
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To: citizencon

The Connections between the MSM, the Kennedy's, Durbin's and other's of their ilk should be incestigated. They appear to be working in concert with each other to bring about the downfallof the US Constitution and government.
They diguise their treason claiming patriotism just as the Terrorist desguise their terrorism with freedom fighting. They both seems to have the same target ------ The US!!


81 posted on 07/23/2005 10:23:33 AM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: cmiller623

There are 3 simple ways to curtail the threat greatly. First, any Mosque in the UK being run by a Saudi Mullah...close it down today, and tell the dude to pack and be out of town within 48 hours. Second, tell the Muslim neighborhoods that if they can't clean up their mess, you will clean it for them, and alot of young Muslim men will spend time in a detention center until they can prove they are "safe". And third, any Mosque that remains open...is absolutely open to anyone, from the private sector to cops...to walk in and observe the situation. If someone is advocating use of violence in the Mosque against any Brit citizen...then close the Mosque entirely. Either they can act cordial in a orderly fashion...or else they can relocate back to whereever they came from. And if they want to claim British citizenship...then they need to act British and be a part of the greatest country on the face of the earth (Winston would have said that...never mind GW).


82 posted on 07/23/2005 10:30:49 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: B Knotts

Arrest him? Cut off the head of the snake.


83 posted on 07/23/2005 10:38:20 AM PDT by ampat
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To: 26lemoncharlie

"Given the current mindset,it would probably be catastrophic."Agree,possibly another 911 or worse.I think(hope)that most Americans feel something is wrong,but too many are complacent.Willing to sit with their heads in the sand.Where's the anger?Besides conservative web sites,Fox News,and a handfull of conservative pols,there is no real movement to take back our country.


84 posted on 07/23/2005 10:48:17 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: 26lemoncharlie

"The connections between the msm,Kennedy's,Durbins and others of their ilk need to be investigated."I'd include terrorist orgs in that conspiracy as well.It would not surprise me one bit if terrorists and liberals communicate and to an extent coordinate strategy.Of course proving it would be near impossible.Remember some months back when al jazerra had exclusive photos of Iraqis being murdered by terrorists,and film of attacks on US troops?They weren't there by accident.


85 posted on 07/23/2005 10:59:41 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: ppaul
All these comments prove is that Muslims are not assimilating to Western culture as politicians so hoped for.

They invade the Western culture through immigration with blessings while the West is kindly asked to butt out of their territories.

Sounds like a nice plan..but for who?

86 posted on 07/23/2005 11:24:12 AM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: Thombo2

I also remember the FBI reports connecting John "traitor" Kerry to the North Vietnam Gov and the Viet Cong!! What has been done about that?? The eletist are in control and are above the LAW!


87 posted on 07/23/2005 11:30:15 AM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: ppaul
Why is Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed still in England?

This is a serious question.

If he is of foreign nationality, he is inciting to war.
If he is a "naturalized", he perpetrated fraud.

His ideal fate is a big "oops!" over the Mediterranean on this way home...

88 posted on 07/23/2005 11:32:44 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Shaun_MD

His head has a flat end?


89 posted on 07/23/2005 11:33:23 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: popdonnelly
I vote for shot.
fatally, that is.
90 posted on 07/23/2005 11:34:15 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: El Gato
here in the US. Freedom of speech does not extend to giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the country.

It doesn't?

Please help me out here. How many arrests do you know of for treason and sedition so far since 911?

We have executed exactly one terrorist in the US: American Citizen-veteran Tim McVeigh.

Please list the enemy/foreign agent mass murderers executed so far in the U.S.

Take your time. I am sure I missed the memo.

91 posted on 07/23/2005 11:41:38 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Dad yer funny
even with the UK's dearth of guns , I predict this POS is gonna catch some rounds

One can only hope.

Unfortunately, I do believe that, in England, trial by jury is not a "right". More the pity.

92 posted on 07/23/2005 11:43:12 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: DJ Taylor

Well, if it is truly the Final Solution, they would not have the opportunity to flee...


93 posted on 07/23/2005 11:44:25 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

"Is there anyone out there who still doesn't believe this is a religious war"
Well,it may not have started that way but it is rapidly developing into an Islam vs.Democracy conflict.This will be the ultimate"Forever War"since they will never stop their terrorist ways and hopefully we will never bow to their demands.


94 posted on 07/23/2005 11:48:34 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: CarrotAndStick
Kind of makes me wonder (not that I need more confirmation) about the sanity of assuming that giving mass murderers a "state", solves the terrorism problem.

Wasn't the creation of Pakistan supposed to eliminate all this?

Observation: the Indians invited this dilemma 57 odd years ago, by allowing any muslim to stay behind after the creation of Pakistan. I do not wish to debate anyone so brain-dead as to argue otherwise.
Even countries can be "well-meaning" to a fault.

95 posted on 07/23/2005 11:54:48 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Publius6961
"If he is of foreign nationality, he is inciting to war. If he is a "naturalized", he perpetrated fraud."

Think about the outcome of this Islamofacist war. If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.

This guys wins either way by enticing war. They can deport him in a democratic society but if he were an infidel in his own society he would be toast....

Islamic rules should apply to fascist Islamics in Western countries. They are the "infidels" of Western culture. Of course if they would like to change their rules and allow Westerners to live in their territories without threat we could make exceptions.

96 posted on 07/23/2005 11:58:36 AM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: Earthdweller
If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.

May I borrow this? I may have found a new tag line

97 posted on 07/23/2005 12:03:51 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Publius6961
LOL..sure...go ahead.

May the West live on.

98 posted on 07/23/2005 12:06:54 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: Publius6961

After being pounded on with a rusty claw hammer it certainly will.


99 posted on 07/23/2005 12:07:44 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Here I abandon peace and desecrate law. Farewell to treaties. Fortune it is you I follow)
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To: ppaul

Well there you have what caterating to radicals will
get you England,you got your work cut out for you now
you better start killing some of theses bums now.


100 posted on 07/23/2005 12:09:01 PM PDT by CommieCrusher
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