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LONDON Suspect's killing by police rattles a city on edge
San Francisco Chronicile ^ | 7/23/05 | Alan Cowell, NYT

Posted on 07/23/2005 5:26:00 AM PDT by ppaul

London -- At about 10 a.m. on a sunny, summery Friday morning, London crossed a once-unthinkable line in its unfolding war on terror.

In a city where most police officers do not carry guns, the shock from the shooting death of a man in a subway car was palpable. It raised questions about police firearms practices, kindled uncertainty among Muslims and deepened the anxiety of a city that looks, these days, under siege.

The police said they had trailed a man, described as South Asian in appearance, from a house in Stockwell, a hardscrabble neighborhood of South London. He was clad in bulky clothes on a warm summer's day, witnesses said. He vaulted over a turnstile and dashed onto a train, with plainclothes police officers right behind him.

The police said the man did not obey orders to stop, so the officers shouted at the passengers to get down and take cover.

The man stumbled onto a train, and a passenger, Mark Whitby, told the BBC: "I looked at his face. He looked sort of left and right, but he basically looked like a cornered rabbit, a cornered fox. He looked absolutely petrified, and then he sort of tripped, but they were hotly pursuing him."

The officers "couldn't have been any more than two or three feet behind him at this time," Whitby said, "and he half tripped and was half pushed to the floor, and the policeman nearest to me had the black automatic pistol in his left hand."

The officer with the gun "held it down to the guy and unloaded five shots into him," Whitby said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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To: mewzilla

LOL!!! You are correct!


41 posted on 07/23/2005 6:08:51 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: JRios1968

The man boarded the train without a ticket. Case closed.


42 posted on 07/23/2005 6:09:19 AM PDT by HuronMan
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To: R.W.Ratikal

As John Kerry once said about something else, 'it's complicated'. Leaving aside your main premise, since frankly, the color of one's skin doesn't automatically make one a bomber, etc., but hate, envy, an ingrained sense of injustice fueled by a cult religion promoting murder certainly helps, Britain seems to have a segregation problem. And yes, they did allow in a great many from the Commonwealth -- as France let in millions from Algeria, gave them low paying jobs, segregated them in slums, and didn't allow them to become full fledged French citizens.

Britain's class system (aristocrats and everybody else), and the near worship of the monarchy on display 24/7 in the media are contributing factors. Think about Dodi Fayed's father, convinced the queen had his son and Princess Di killed because Di might have married his son and borne his child. This man is wealthy and powerful, yet he's paranoid. Or is he? The point is, Britain hasn't successfully assimilated her ethnic minorities. Worse, under pernicious PC'ism, she pandered to Muslim Islamofascists, allowing them to run amok. Other countries, including the US, France, and Germany begged her to put a stop to this, but she didn't. Well, feed the tiger, and when he really gets hungry, he'll eat you.

Britain suffers a huge guilt trip about its vanished empire, how they got it, what they did with it, etc.. They should get over that, concentrate on their great history and contributions to the world and teach that in the schools. Make every single Britain, no matter his/her color or ethnicity feel as if they belong, they're part of the fabric of the UK. (The US should do that, too.)


43 posted on 07/23/2005 6:10:07 AM PDT by hershey
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To: AlexW

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1448355/posts?page=75#75

Follow the link for some good background. Most of this incident was covered on threads yesterday.


44 posted on 07/23/2005 6:10:29 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: MadIvan
whingeing

Whingeing?

45 posted on 07/23/2005 6:11:12 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul; MadIvan

Oh Boo Freaking Hoo.


46 posted on 07/23/2005 6:11:37 AM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: ppaul
He vaulted over a turnstile and dashed onto a train,

That was his first mistake!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

47 posted on 07/23/2005 6:12:50 AM PDT by bray (Pray for the Freedom of the Iraqis from Islam)
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To: mewzilla
"They wanted to make sure that he didn't get a chance to detonate a device if he had one on him."

Thats what I assumed, but have not seen anything on the news about it. They obviously had some very hard info on him.

Normally in London, they would pick him up, dust him off, appologize and send him on his way, haha.
48 posted on 07/23/2005 6:13:26 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava)
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To: hershey

Apologies to MadIvan, but I've been trying to figure out what went wrong in Britain and how to fix it without mass deportation of several million Muslims or the tubes being bombed every other day. If my post came across as too harsh, again, I'm sorry. The US certainly has had her problems with segregation and injustice, and we still do. We'll have more attacks here, too.


49 posted on 07/23/2005 6:14:03 AM PDT by hershey
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To: ppaul

Five bullets are a lot cheaper than a trial and incarceration. The reason for the shooting was they were afraid he was going to explode the bomb it turned out he did not have.


50 posted on 07/23/2005 6:15:09 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: 2nd Amendment
Perhaps they use multiple shots to insure their small calibers (?) will do the job. I'm a strong advocate of killin those that want to kill others - the sooner the better.

mc
51 posted on 07/23/2005 6:16:27 AM PDT by mcshot (Boldly going nowhere with a smile and appreciation for life.)
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To: GVgirl

Thanks for the links...I dunno how I missed them.
I am connected 24 hours a day here, and check FR day and night, but I am 7 hours ahead of CST.


52 posted on 07/23/2005 6:16:29 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava)
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(At Least) 1 in 4 British Muslims
sympathize with terrorists' motives

53 posted on 07/23/2005 6:18:44 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: MadIvan

Thanks Ivan.


54 posted on 07/23/2005 6:19:37 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: R.W.Ratikal
There is a great on-going war being carried out against the white race by non-whites in too many places for it to be coincidental.

It's also being carried out by white leftists. Just look at the mayor of London.

55 posted on 07/23/2005 6:21:58 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: ppaul
(At Least) 1 in 4 British Muslims sympathize with terrorists' motives

Translation: 1 in 4 British Muslims admit sympatizing with terrorists motives when asked by dhimmies.

56 posted on 07/23/2005 6:23:49 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: ppaul; MadIvan
As our FRiend MadIvan demonstrates, there are Brits with steel in their spines and fire in their bellies to go along with that stiff upper lip.

I am willing to bet that the "rattled" folks are a small minority.

57 posted on 07/23/2005 6:25:26 AM PDT by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: ppaul

Do you think just maybe one time the media might mention chemical weapons, And remind us all what the President and Tony Blair have been saying for years, Or do they think they wont do that either. I think everybody should rewind and wake up. now.


58 posted on 07/23/2005 6:33:01 AM PDT by lillybet
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To: ppaul

Article states, " I looked at his face. He looked sort of left and right, but he basically looked like a cornered rabbit, a cornered fox. He looked absolutely petrified, and then he sort of tripped, but they were hotly pursuing him."

How many people did the press have to interview to get this quote, I wonder. Another witness remarked that the man in question looked to be wired, etc., but why state something to support the shooting if you can find that one in a hundred people who will indicate "unneccesary roughness or police brutality." No wonder the average person has no use for the media!


59 posted on 07/23/2005 6:37:51 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: RandallFlagg
And he refused to stop because.....?

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Probably because he's used to the British Cops not carrying guns.
60 posted on 07/23/2005 6:38:10 AM PDT by gooleyman ( What about the baby's "RIGHT TO CHOOSE"?????? I bet the baby would chose LIFE.)
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