Crossing Guard, 79, Fired Over Drug Test

KPRC ^ | 7/22/05 | Mikey_1962

[Smogger]

I have read where teachers are not randomly drug tested, and also, the people that conduct the tests, are not randomly drug tested.

LOL! Please.. Cops are'nt drug tested. Wake up people. Doctors aren't randomly drug tested. Politicians aren't drug tested. Random Drug testing is for the little guy:

"THIS MEAN'S YOU!!"

Now back to work...

[Know your rights]

Random Drug testing is for the little guy

You got it. Who's a greater danger when high: a crossing guard or an armed police officer?

[Tiger Smack]

If some old coot cant read employment paperwork then he shouldnt be a crossing guard. Being OLD doesnt excuse you from the restrictions of a signed agreement. He never should have signed the paperwork if he couldnt "read it or see it" as you put it.

[Racehorse]

What is it with some people on this forum and in society in general that they believe rules should only apply to some people and not others?

Seniority.

And, the memory of times past when we were a nation of free standing individuals, not a hive of regimented drones.

[mmercier]

>> How about cops? Oh.. nevermind their unions are strong enough to keep them of the table..


I am a union worker. Apparently mine is not that strong.

[Know your rights]

What is it with some people on this forum [...] that they believe rules should only apply to some people and not others?

Who believes that? It appears to me that those opposed to random drug testing for this guyu are opposed for all crossing guards.

[HawaiianGecko]

 

 

	It's our litigious society that is the cause of the problem. I'm sure the school is only doing these random tests at the behest of their legal counsel. Could you imagine the problems the school district would have if a kid got injured in his cross-walk and it was found that he was high on something?  If I was the superintendent I would have pulled him into my office and tried to work it out first.

 

[Luddite Patent Counsel]

You must be real proud. Blackbird.

I'm always "real proud" when Justice Scalia agrees with me, as when he wrote the opinion in Veronia School District case in '95. Blackbird

You must be "real proud" of your screen name. You know, it appears automatically at the end of your post, so you don't have to type "Blackbird" in every time. You did know that, right? Or are we just randomly typing "Blackbird" after every paragraph? Blackbird.

Actually, it's kind of fun. Blackbird.

Addictive in a way, almost. Blackbird.

Alright, I'm stopping now. Blackbird.

Really. Blackbird.

Blackbird.

[microgood]

Similarly, there are circumstances, such as those bearing upon public safety, under which random drug tests are perfectly reasonable.

And why is this reasonable? Not one known event has ever occurred to show drug testing has saved one life or prevented one accident. Drug testing was implemented as a solution to a problem that did not exist. It was just another step down the road to tyranny. Even now, the only people being arrested or charged with anything remotely like this are the pilots who try to fly planes drunk, not a part of the drug testing phenomena.

Yes, and that should be used to justify making the law whatever you want it to be.

No, the way it was written in the Constitution. Even the black robes struck it down in some cases, in recognition that at least the 4th Amendment exists.

There are two kinds of conservatives. One kind is a strict constitutional conservative that believes we should follow the original meaning of the constitution. That is the kind of conservative I am.

The second kind of conservative believe that their agenda needs to be followed no matter what it takes to achieve it, similar to the liberal side of the house, only with a different agenda. That is the kind of conservative you are.

You aren't posting from jail, are you?

I fight for freedom whether it personally affects me or not. It runs in my veins.

[RetiredArmy]

Whatever floats your boat pal. I'm done.

[sandydipper]

Bureacracy run amuck.

[Luddite Patent Counsel]

For a guy with no sense of humor, you're pretty funny. If a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, you're a walking time bomb.

[zoyd]

And "unreasonable" is still a word with actual meaning, and is still in the fourth amendment. Glad I could help.

Luddite, if you wanted a cup of my pee, I'd say that was pretty unreasonable. If it were blood and not pee, would you still feel the same way? That the taking of blood was not an unreasonable search?

"Eh, just sit still while I prick you with this needle to take your blood. I mean, your blood is not your body, so why bitch and moan about it? It's just your blood!"

Just to clarify: Your body is even more important than your property, Luddite. What rights do you think you have, as concerning your body? Or is your body simply a vessel for the government to test and tap at their whim?

[patton]

"we are not going to let anybody frighten us from our great love of freedom"

President Bush, today.

[coloradan]

Hey, there's no Constitutional right to own your own urine. /s

[HawaiianGecko]

 

 

	<<Not one known event has ever occurred to show drug testing has saved one life or prevented one accident.>> That may be a true statement but it doesn't have much meaning. It's like trying to prove a negative statement. I'm sure that if the government kept Hunter S. Thompson from piloting a B-747 full of tourists, that many lives were saved; but since they didn't die, how can one say it was prevented.

 

[BlackbirdSST]

You must be real proud. Blackbird. I'm always "real proud" when Justice Scalia agrees with me, as when he wrote the opinion in Veronia School District case in '95. Blackbird You must be "real proud" of your screen name. You know, it appears automatically at the end of your post, so you don't have to type "Blackbird" in every time. You did know that, right? Or are we just randomly typing "Blackbird" after every paragraph? Blackbird. Actually, it's kind of fun. Blackbird. Addictive in a way, almost. Blackbird. Alright, I'm stopping now. Blackbird. Really. Blackbird. Blackbird.

Now you're just acting retarded. Blackbird.

[mlc9852]

Well, they did come to Rush's defense in the medical records matter. I'm pretty sure Rush is still white.

[Diddle E. Squat]

By reading but refraining from commenting on most threads where I have nothing original to add.

[microgood]

That may be a true statement but it doesn't have much meaning. It's like trying to prove a negative statement.

I understand what you are saying, but my basic point was that there was no crisis or set of incidents which brought on drug testing. it was basically done because drug tests became available, almost as if it were a welfare program for drug testing companies.