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Scientists: Humans cause global warming
CNN.com ^ | July 21, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/22/2005 7:22:59 AM PDT by mlc9852

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Global warming is caused primarily by humans and "nearly all climate scientists today" agree with that viewpoint, the new head of the National Academy of Sciences -- a climate scientist himself -- said Wednesday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chickenlittle; climate; climatechange; globalwarming; ralphcicerone; skyisfalling
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To: AbeKrieger
Well of course, we'll EAT the humans. I would not want to waste them.

The aliens in the new War of the Worlds tried that.

The sombitches couldn't handle polluted human bodies and our polluted water and died without human intervention, thus saving our sorry butts from extinction.

41 posted on 07/22/2005 7:50:24 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: AbeKrieger

lets start with the Muslims!


42 posted on 07/22/2005 7:50:42 AM PDT by jrd
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To: Kay Syrah

Not too mention how I'm looking sooo forward to starting a citrus and avacado orchard on my 47 acres in the Ozarks.


43 posted on 07/22/2005 7:52:39 AM PDT by flada (Y2K? What are you selling, chicken or sex jelly?)
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To: LibertyShark
Please note that the NAS are all GOVERNMENT scientists.

And their future funding and advancement is tied to their willingness to advance this theory. Computer models are even intentially rigged to ignore natural negative feedback mechanisms to produce scary results. That is how they come up with the ridiculous range of predictions that the earth will warm from 2.5 to 10.7 degrees over the next century. The models at the higher end were intentionally altered to ignore known factors which reduce global warming. They are not an honest bunch as they include those numbers in their range when they talk to the media and publish papers. It is EXTREMELY unlikely that we will warm even 2 degrees over the next hundred years. An honest analysis based on current trends would be -0.5 cooling to 1.0 degree warming. The range 'scientists' publish is simply tin-foil hat kookery.

44 posted on 07/22/2005 7:57:55 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: mlc9852

Will the new head of the National Academy of Sciences push for the increased use of nuclear power as a way to reduce "greenhouse" gases?


45 posted on 07/22/2005 7:58:41 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: Mike Darancette
"How do they know what the CO2 levels was on this date say 375,000 years ago? "

They don't. They only know samples from ice cores that are an average of several hundred years. Current CO2 is about 24 % above a sample from several hundred thousand years ago --that sample is the average of several hundred years, so individual years could be and were likely to be above or equal to current levels.

BP = before present.

Link to Vostok ice core CO2 data -- http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.htm

46 posted on 07/22/2005 8:00:31 AM PDT by gatex (NRA, JPFO and Gun Owners of America)
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To: johnnyBbad

Yes, the Martian Polar Ice Caps will be gone in 1,000 years.


47 posted on 07/22/2005 8:00:44 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

I thought it was all cow and sheep flatulance.

It must be Barney's fault. I just knew he was a very bad dog!


48 posted on 07/22/2005 8:00:53 AM PDT by garyhope (Gimme iced tea)
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To: mlc9852

Sure!
Why just this past Wednesday it was 105, tying a record set in 1878......
But, in 1878 the cause of the "global warming" was cow farts......


49 posted on 07/22/2005 8:01:33 AM PDT by G Larry (Honor the fallen and the heroes of 9/11 at the Memorial Site.)
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To: johnnyBbad
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there evidence of warming on Mars as well?

Yes, there were a few articles posted here on FR that are still available via search.

50 posted on 07/22/2005 8:01:55 AM PDT by RJL
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To: HawaiianGecko
Here's some CO2 for ya
52 posted on 07/22/2005 8:03:47 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: mlc9852

I might be willing to go along with this, but then, I'd say we need some massive spending on hundreds of new NUCLEAR power plants, ASAP.


53 posted on 07/22/2005 8:06:01 AM PDT by Paradox (Its a good thing that even when you dismiss the existence of God, he doesn't dismiss you.)
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To: mlc9852
Ralph Cicerone is a hack who, when faced with the loss of research funds for ozone depletion fading away after the ban on CFCs, switched to global warming as the next climate catastrophe bandwagon on which to hitch a team of highly paid snorting steeds of salvation.

Like so many of his ilk, he sees the atmosphere as his playground where computer models allow him to recreate the earth in his image and to his satisfaction all the while laying the blame for its present sorry state (as he views it) at the feet of the greedy capitalists and their bought-and-paid-for politicians.

Some of his ideas are so far out in left field as to be ludicrous on their face such as this tidbit gleaned from straightdope.com:

Ralph Cicerone, a professor of geosciences at the University of California at Irvine, has suggested spraying 50,000 tons of propane or ethane over the South Pole early each winter. The resultant chemical reaction, he wrote in a 1991 article in Science magazine, would temporarily neutralize the ozone hole. It would also cost a zillion bucks. But if things keep up like they have, we may yet have to do it.

54 posted on 07/22/2005 8:06:57 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: mlc9852; snarks_when_bored
Scientists: Humans cause global warming

The root of global warming was solved last night. snarks_when_bored caused it.

55 posted on 07/22/2005 8:10:37 AM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Old Professer
"Ralph Cicerone is a hack...."

Sounds like a candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize.

56 posted on 07/22/2005 8:10:47 AM PDT by gatex (NRA, JPFO and Gun Owners of America)
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To: mlc9852
Of course, CNN makes no effort to inform the viewing public of the Heidleburg Appeal, an appeal by scientists (not politicians) for the world to actually look at the data (i.e. all of the data, not just the parts that the environmentalists want you to see) before doing anything drastic in trying to stop any climate change. This appeal has been signed by over 4,000 scientists.
57 posted on 07/22/2005 8:11:18 AM PDT by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
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To: Paradox
I might be willing to go along with this, but then, I'd say we need some massive spending on hundreds of new NUCLEAR power plants, ASAP.

Ironically, the most obvious solution to what is called the most important issue facing mankind is never proposed by globull warmers. Hmmm, I don't get it. However, a tax on rich countries will solve this. Being only an engineer, I guess I am not as smart as these globull warming experts because I don't see how a tax reduces globull warming. I guess I need a computer model to prove it to me.

58 posted on 07/22/2005 8:13:52 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: mlc9852

My above post was inspired by a memory during the endless reading period I underwent while the ozone wars were being fought; I remembered him as being a primary author of such a notion in Science and just went on Google to hunt it down.

Cicerone is the president of NAS and there is a wealth of info on him in a Google search if anyone wants to read more.

Like the poverty pimps, he and his followers would be unemployed if the problems they deplore were to ever be solved.


59 posted on 07/22/2005 8:14:00 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: gatex
They don't.

So they are comparing today against a several hundred year average some thousands of years ago?

Shouldn't we compare the average of the last several hundred years against a like period in the past.

This looks rather cyclical over time.

60 posted on 07/22/2005 8:14:53 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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