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Scientists worried by riot control ray gun
Reuters ^ | 7/21/05 | n/a

Posted on 07/21/2005 9:33:55 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

Scientists worried by riot control ray gun

Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:34 AM IST

LONDON (Reuters) - Scientists are questioning the safety of a Star Wars-style riot control ray gun due to be deployed in Iraq next year.

The Active Denial System weapon, classified as "less lethal" by the Pentagon, fires a 95-gigahertz microwave beam at rioters to cause heating and intolerable pain in less than five seconds.

The idea is people caught in the beam will rapidly try to move out of it and therefore break up the crowd.

But New Scientist magazine reported on Wednesday that during tests carried out at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico, participants playing the part of rioters were told to remove glasses and contact lenses to protect their eyes.

In another test they were also told to remove metal objects like coins from their clothing to avoid local hot spots developing on their skin.

"What happens if someone in a crowd is unable for whatever reason to move away from the beam," asked Neil Davison, coordinator of the non-lethal weapons research project at Britain's Bradford University.

"How do you ensure that the dose doesn't cross the threshold for permanent damage? Does the weapon cut out to prevent overexposure?," he added.

The magazine said a vehicle-mounted version of the weapon named Sheriff was scheduled for service in Iraq in 2006 and that U.S. Marines and police were both working on portable versions.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: activedenial; banglist; gigahertzot; zotlist
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To: kiriath_jearim
A few important points:

1. Scientist shouldn't riot.

2. If rioters find spot heat uncomfortable, they shouldn't riot.

3. Riot organizers are usually at the back of the crowd and can be reached, selectively, with this.

4. Rioters carrying flammable liquids will be at a distinct disadvantage

21 posted on 07/21/2005 10:05:27 AM PDT by leadhead (Momma don't let your babies grow up to be Dumborats)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Crowd control is best practiced with high explosives and/or napalm.

Too much property damage - I prefer good old nerve gas - it kills the roaches too... (the other ones.)

22 posted on 07/21/2005 10:06:54 AM PDT by talleyman (Sharks, terrorists & criminals - if we'll just be nice to them, they'll leave us alone...)
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To: kiriath_jearim

What ever happened to the riot-control device that sprays stinky goo all over the "revelers"? I read somewhere that it smells like sewage and decomposing flesh (yum!).


23 posted on 07/21/2005 10:11:57 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Notice that it's not called a "Peaceful Demonstration Control Gun." Rioters deserve whatever they get. They need one of these in San Francisco.


24 posted on 07/21/2005 10:12:55 AM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: kiriath_jearim

25 posted on 07/21/2005 10:17:45 AM PDT by MarineBrat (We are taxed twice as much by our idleness. -- Benjamin Franklin)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Yes, Virginia. There's a Santa Claus carrying a ray gun.


26 posted on 07/21/2005 10:19:00 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: massgopguy
No, no, no.. Tin-foil hats repel everything!!!
27 posted on 07/21/2005 10:23:05 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: kiriath_jearim

I wonder what happens to people with metal fillings & dental work. Also, pins & screws, etc. from surgeries, and pacemakers. Your gonna have to pass a physical to riot in this country one day.


28 posted on 07/21/2005 10:27:17 AM PDT by Mister Da (Nuke 'em til they glow!)
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To: massgopguy
What happens if they're wearing tin-foil hats?

Pop go the weasels.

29 posted on 07/21/2005 10:32:30 AM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: neverdem

They should call it the BFG.
*chuckle*


30 posted on 07/21/2005 10:34:56 AM PDT by Darksheare (Hey troll, Sith happens.)
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To: Darksheare
Clearly, the terrorists should be attacked with the Liberal-Apporved(tm) weapon of choice: the Comfy Chair!
31 posted on 07/21/2005 10:38:59 AM PDT by 50sDad ( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
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To: DarthVader

95 GIGAHERTZ!!??

32 posted on 07/21/2005 10:48:56 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: kiriath_jearim
"How do you ensure that the dose doesn't cross the threshold for permanent damage? Does the weapon cut out to prevent overexposure?," he added.

They're right. Let's go back to bullets.

33 posted on 07/21/2005 10:55:31 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: King Prout

Or play the American Anthem over loud speakers a few times, that'll disperse any liberal riot.


34 posted on 07/21/2005 11:00:09 AM PDT by BostonianRightist (I don't trust a government I can't shoot back at.)
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To: Darksheare

I somehow KNEW you'd love this Bad Idea ;)


35 posted on 07/21/2005 11:03:29 AM PDT by King Prout (I'd say I missed ya, but that'd be untrue... I NEVER MISS)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Wow - we're closer to "Atlus Shrugged" than I thought...


36 posted on 07/21/2005 11:47:20 AM PDT by jonno (We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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To: Disambiguator
What ever happened to the riot-control device that sprays stinky goo all over the "revelers"? I read somewhere that it smells like sewage and decomposing flesh (yum!).

There's another one, tested by my organization, that reduces the coefficient of friction to well below that of wet ice. No body can even stand up on the stuff. Very effective, but can cause bruises, contusions, sprains, broken bones and even concussions. When the anarchists or jihadies hit the road ... literally.

37 posted on 07/21/2005 2:07:01 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: robertpaulsen
95 GIGAHERTZ!!??

Yes, but not (yet) 1.21 GigaWatts of it. :)

38 posted on 07/21/2005 2:08:03 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Redbob
Wonder if this sterilizes the mob?

Probably not, it's just a skin effect. Still if you are wearing no underwear, or even loose boxers, with everything just swinging in the breeze, so to speak, it might cause some damage to delicate tissues.

39 posted on 07/21/2005 2:09:37 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: 50sDad

NOT the Comfy Chair!


40 posted on 07/21/2005 2:21:37 PM PDT by Darksheare (Hey troll, Sith happens.)
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