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More blasts in London, new terror attack
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Posted on 07/21/2005 7:13:42 AM PDT by Srirangan

A number of Tube stations have been evacuated and lines closed after three blasts in what Met Police chief Sir Ian Blair says is a "serious incident".

Sir Ian appealed to Londoners to stay where they were and said the transport system was effectively being shut down.

The minor explosions used detonators only, a BBC reporter said.

In addition, a Number 26 bus in Hackney Road in Bethnal Green had its windows blown out by a blast. There were no injuries.

Large areas around Warren Street, Oval and the Shepherd's Bush Hammersmith and City line Tube stations have been cordoned off.

One person was injured at Warren Street. There were reports the injured person may have been holding a rucksack containing the detonator.

Lines suspended

Police said armed officers had been deployed to University College Hospital after an incident.

The whole of the Northern Line has been suspended, along with the Victoria Line and the Hammersmith and City line.

A number of other stations were closed including Westminster tube station, Waterloo tube station and King's Cross Thameslink. There were also reports that St Paul's tube and Oxford Circus tube station were closed.

Tony Blair cancelled events in the afternoon and will be attending a meeting of the Cobra committee along with Foreign Secretary Jack Straw.

The BBC's Andrew Winstanley said devices had been found but appeared to have been dummies, containing no explosives.

London Underground went to an amber alert with trains taken to the next station and evacuated.

An eyewitness at Oval station said there had been a small bang, and a man had then run off when the Tube reached the station.

A spokesman for Stagecoach said the driver of the number 26 bus travelling through Shoreditch had heard a bang on upper deck, gone upstairs and seen the windows were blown out.

The bus driver was very shaken but said to be fine.

At Shepherd's Bush Hammersmith and City line station, police told reporters that a man had threatened to blow himself up and then ran off.

Sosiane Mohellavi, 35, was travelling from Oxford Circus to Walthamstow when she was evacuated from a train at Warren Street.

"I was in the carriage and we smelt smoke - it was like something was burning.

"Everyone was panicked and people were screaming. We had to pull the alarm. I am still shaking."

The BBC's Rory Barnett said there had been no smoke on the platform at Warren St.

Liz Edwards, who works near Warren Street Underground station, said the area was full of activity.

"There are police, fire engines and ambulances all around there. A guy from our office had just come back from the station and said the police were aggressively keeping people away from the station and that you could not get anywhere near it."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bombblasts; london; londonattacked; uk
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To: GOPJ
As to EMP's the best way around them is find cheap ways to start hardening our chips.

EMP's will take an air burst. Unless the islamokazis develop , or buy, their own ballistic missile the point is mute.

101 posted on 07/21/2005 2:07:04 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity)
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To: GOPJ

your post excerpt ...
"Here's what Muslims need to know -- conservatives are different.

If Muslims nuke us, we nuke them. If they kill us we're not going to feel guilty and give them money for poverty programs or anything else. We're not going to "understand" them. When Muslims act like guests who pee on our carpets when invited to our homes, we'll throw them out. If when they're guest in our homes/countries and kill our families, we'll retaliate.

We're not going to take their rude antics anymore. If they nuke us, we nuke them. Period."





My response ... excerpt
"Good response.

Tell me how we are going to do this."


I meant how will we actually get them to believe your above idea? They see how we operate in the world. We play by the rules. THEY DO NOT. They use our fairness against us. Our willingness to trust and make agreements that we are bound by signing. They are not ... to wit Israel and the Palestinians.




response to your post 100

There is a big market for drugs and it has been since time began ... that what men want ... men get one way or another.

Now in the case of preventing Arab men entering this country... there are some possibilities to stopping this avenue of entry.

Number one we allow them to come in to this country with the pretext of attending universities, etc., they are not followed up on after they come into the US.

The borders could be tightened considerably. The way it is now ... the border is wide open. With today's technology there are devices for monitoring and we have means for swift apprehension. We do not make any serious attempt to curtail the illegal entry. It is more like a farce; a play action game.

The EMP scenario is one to address immediately in regard to creating cars and trucks that will still run; planes that will still fly/ electrical systems that will operate ... at least on a survival level. Hospitals, water systems minimal basic needs, etc.,Banks convert to hardened systems starting now ... to be completed in 18 months. Hopefully we have that much time.


We have no time to waste, or being distracted by side issues rather than focusing on priorities. First things first ...


I agree with your post 100 ...
"This is a very bad situation. Add into it that our real enemies (like North Korea) could arm AQ and wipe out two or more groups they could do without).

As to EMP's the best way around them is find cheap ways to start hardening our chips. It would be too costly to redo the ones in place, but there must be some stop gap measures that would work for some. Then replace them on a priority basis -- most crucial to keep the society running first. Power plants, grids, etc., are first. This war isn't easy. Lots of pitfalls. "

Thanks for the thoughtful response.


102 posted on 07/21/2005 4:02:33 PM PDT by Countyline
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To: Dr.Deth
I think that sums up the nannygov position nicely.

Although American citizens being banned from travelling to Cuba isn't?

103 posted on 07/21/2005 5:00:11 PM PDT by cooper72
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To: Srirangan

Wouldn't it be funny if these "suicide bombers" were sent out with just enough explosive to maim themselves and nobody else?

The blasting caps could singe the bomber, but the innocent guy next to him can laugh and point: "Stupid Muhammed!"


104 posted on 07/21/2005 6:54:01 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islam: Nothing BEER couldn't cure!)
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To: cooper72; Rushgrrl
Secondly, how many muslims are in the US?

Too many.
But statistically the percentage to the rest of the population is
small compared to the UK, where it has reached a critical mass.

105 posted on 07/21/2005 10:40:16 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: cweese

throw rocks, probably


106 posted on 07/21/2005 10:54:19 PM PDT by pau1f0rd (Still more majestic shalt thou rise, More dreadful from each foreign stroke.)
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To: ppaul
But statistically the percentage to the rest of the population is small compared to the UK, where it has reached a critical mass.

Forgive my laughter but if 2% of Americans are muslim (and we all know there are more) and 3% of Britons are Muslim, only a ideological zealot would call that a much greater problem.

107 posted on 07/22/2005 2:45:44 AM PDT by cooper72
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To: cooper72

Apples. Oranges. Straw-men.


108 posted on 07/22/2005 7:23:22 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: cooper72; Rushgrrl; Dr.Deth
Forgive my laughter but if 2% of Americans are muslim (and we all know there are more) and 3% of Britons are Muslim, only a ideological zealot would call that a much greater problem.

You can stop laughing now.

LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom

Muslims in the UK

According to the 2001 census 1,591,000 Muslims are living in England and Wales, where they form 2.7 % of the population. The local authorities with the highest percentage of Muslim population are:

London Borough of Tower Hamlets 36.4% 71,389

London Borough of Newham 24.3% 59,293

Blackburn with Darwen19.4% 26,674

Bradford 16.1% 75,188

London Borough of Waltham Forest 15.1% 32,902

Luton 14.6% 26,963

Birmingham 14.3% 14,033

London Borough of Hackney 13.8% 27,908

Pendle 13.4% 11,988

Slough 13.4% 15,897

London Borough of Brent 12.3% 32,290

Muslim Population in the US

The following are a few recent estimates on the number of Muslims residing in the USA:

1.2 million (2000) National Opinion Research Center [0.4% of the national population]


109 posted on 07/22/2005 12:36:21 PM PDT by XR7
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To: MadIvan

ping.


110 posted on 07/22/2005 12:36:55 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7; cooper72
Your numbers are wrong. Try this -

Muslim Population in the USA - according to this, it's approximately 5 million.

Ivan

111 posted on 07/22/2005 12:40:14 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan
Your numbers are wrong...

His numbers are not wrong. Your link to "Islam 101" which lists the "population statistics" on the number of Muslims in the US, says that the statistics were provided by some organization called the "AMC" or Arab Muslim Council, hardly a credible source. The link provided in #109 above provides figures from more credible sources.

112 posted on 07/22/2005 8:37:01 PM PDT by ppaul
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