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N.C. illegal immigrant allowed to retrieve buried savings
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Posted on 07/20/2005 10:56:08 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

N.C. illegal immigrant allowed to retrieve buried savings


Associated Press

One of the 48 illegal workers arrested this month at Seymour Johnson Air Force Base will return to Mexico richer by $31,700, thanks to his hard work and the cooperation of immigration officials.

That's the amount of money that Cristobal Chavez Torres saved in $100 bills from seven years of bone-crunching labor and buried in a well-sealed glass jar the yard of the rundown trailer he rented in Goldsboro.

Chavez, who began the bus ride home to Mexico on Wednesday, was allowed to return to the trailer to retrieve both his money and his 16-year-old son, Arturo, before he was deported.

"I didn't want to lose it," he said. "It was sweat from my brow."

Chavez, 66, has lived in the United States off and on since 1970, when he crossed the Rio Grande River in search of work. He came to North Carolina seven years ago and got a job with a private construction company after doing farm work and construction in California, Texas, Florida and Kentucky.

His son came to live with him six years ago after Arturo's mother died in Mexico.

Chavez never earned more than $7.25 an hour but was able to save, thanks to his thriftiness and stamina for long work weeks. When he had accumulated about $10,000, he decided it would be best to find a hiding spot other than the pockets of his pants. And he wanted somewhere outside his trailer.

"If there were an electrical short and my home caught on fire, I'd lose everything," said Chavez, who never tried to open a bank account because most of his documents were fake.

Randy Chambers, treasurer of the Latino Community Credit Union in Durham, said the credit union's surveys indicate that up to 80 percent of Latin American immigrants in North Carolina have never had a bank account, either in the United States or in their home countries.

Many say that they don't trust financial institutions or that bank employees don't speak their language, Chambers said. Others don't have the proper documents.

On July 6, Chavez was among 48 illegal immigrants working for private construction contractors at the Air Force base who were rounded up after a two-month investigation. He told his secret to a staff member from the Mexican Consulate in Raleigh, who had come to the jail July 8 to make sure Chavez and the other detained Mexicans were being treated fairly.

The staff member relayed the story of Chavez's treasure to Mexican Consul Armando Ortiz Rocha, who called Tom O'Connell, head of the local office of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Ortiz asked whether O'Connell would consider releasing Chavez if the consulate ensured that Chavez returned to Mexico after retrieving the money. O'Connell agreed and turned Chavez over to the consulate July 11.

O'Connell said he was swayed more by the plight of Chavez's son than the money.

"The main reason was the 16-year-old kid," O'Connell said. "I don't like to leave minors unattended."

After digging up his money, Chavez turned it over to consulate authorities, who placed it in a bank account. They'll transfer the money to Chavez once he returns to Mexico.

The first thing Chavez plans to do is build a concrete house on the small plot of land he bought years ago in El Mante, his hometown in northern Mexico.

Then he'll build a cart from which to sell fresh fruit juice in the town square. He doubts that he'll add to his savings as he did in the United States.

"In Mexico, who will pay me $500 a week?" he asked.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: Alabama; US: Arizona; US: Arkansas; US: California; US: Georgia; US: Nevada; US: New Mexico; US: North Carolina; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; deported; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrant; immigrantlist; invasionusa; northcarolina
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To: Royal Wulff; Happy2BMe
1.3 billion Muslims want to slit our collective throats, and we can't even share opportunity with neighbors who share our values. Our time will come with the will of a vengeful God, you selfish hypocrites.

Get off your high horse. We presently tolerate 20  million illegal aliens and a very lax legal immigration policy. This nation is way too generous as far as allowing people to come here, legal and illegally.

You have  lot of nerve saying we aren't sharing opportunity with these wretched 3rd nations. Most of them failed nations of Spanish-Indian heritage. We are picking up the pieces for Spain's failed experiments in the New World

141 posted on 07/22/2005 6:27:17 AM PDT by dennisw ( G_d - ---> Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: dennisw
I respect your adamancy sir regarding private property ownership in that the money the illegal alien earned you feel was his private property and deservedly should have been returned to him.

But on whose "property" was that money earned?

And where is the recipricocity in all of this?

If Americans were allowed to make money in Mexico and bring it back home with them to the United States, things might be different.

142 posted on 07/22/2005 6:35:08 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Chavez, 66, has lived in the United States off and on since 1970, when he crossed the Rio Grande River in search of work. He came to North Carolina seven years ago and got a job with a private construction company after doing farm work and construction in California, Texas, Florida and Kentucky. Chavez never earned more than $7.25 an hour but was able to save, thanks to his thriftiness and stamina for long work weeks.

He's getting too old to put together another $30,000. Hopefully he won't come back but will retire in Mexico. This guy put in a lot of back breaking work. I would never deny him the money he squirreled away. To me his case for justice is a lot stronger that all these young illegal aliens who want instate tuitions for college and who are near impossible to deport.

Bottom line is I respect his years of hard labor. At age 66 you cannot deny him the fruits of his labor

143 posted on 07/22/2005 6:49:53 AM PDT by dennisw ( G_d - ---> Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
I'm Native born and I haven't stopped doing it. Neither have my children.

Neither have I, but you and I both know, a lot of native born have.

144 posted on 07/22/2005 7:38:03 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: docbnj
Can I also keep my earnings in a jar and forget about the IRS?

From Irs.gov:

The law does require you to file a tax return if your income is above a certain level. Check the instructions for Form 1040, 1040A or 1040EZ (under "filing requirements") for specific details that may affect your need to file a tax return with IRS this year.

Here are some general guidelines for anyone under age 65. Remember, these guidelines may change based on your particular situation. In general, once you have the following gross income amounts, the law requires you to file a federal tax return with the IRS:

Single — $7,950

Head of Household — $10,250

Married Filing Jointly — $15,900

Married Filing Separately — $3,100

Qualifying Widower (with dependent child) — $12,800

145 posted on 07/22/2005 7:44:01 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Happy2BMe
I thought so. At least you are honest about it.

You thought what? Honest about what? That I know people who hire illegals? That I disapprove of working people under the table? You obviously think you found something that establishes a moral high ground for yourself in the post, but I can't figure out what I admitted to that allows you to preen.

And you believe I am in the minority on this then?

I don't know. I don't determine my moral commitments from the polls.
146 posted on 07/22/2005 9:59:49 AM PDT by chronic_loser
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To: chronic_loser
When it comes to supporting illegal immigration, would you be surprised to discover you are in the vast minority?

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(FR Open Border Opinion Poll captured on 13 Feb, 2005 at 10:00 PM EST)

Free Republic Opinion Poll: Please indicate whether or not you support or oppose open borders and illegal immigration.

Composite Opinion
I OPPOSE open borders and illegal immigration. 94.4% 4,020
I SUPPORT open borders and illegal immigration. 2.9% 125
Undecided/Pass. 2.7% 115
100.0% 4,260
Member Opinion
I OPPOSE open borders and illegal immigration. 94.3% 2,954
Undecided/Pass. 3.4% 105
I SUPPORT open borders and illegal immigration. 2.3% 73
100.0% 3,132
Non-Member Opinion
I OPPOSE open borders and illegal immigration. 94.5% 1,066
I SUPPORT open borders and illegal immigration. 4.6% 52
Undecided/Pass. 0.9% 10
100.0% 1,128

THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

147 posted on 07/22/2005 10:03:55 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

So the IRS doesn't keep any of his income? Boy, aren't we saps!


148 posted on 07/22/2005 10:07:07 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib
Illegal aliens getting home loans - FDIC and IRS encourage loans irregardless of legal status.


149 posted on 07/22/2005 10:10:38 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: dennisw
"Bottom line is I respect his years of hard labor. At age 66 you cannot deny him (Chavez) the fruits of his labor."

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And I respect your opinion, sir. Thank you for expressing it.

Senor Chavez would have never had to come here and break our immigration laws if he lived in a nation that was not run by drug cartels and elitists who control over 90% of the wealth by less than 10% of the population.

150 posted on 07/22/2005 10:14:15 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
If I formed my moral opinion from polls, I would be a democrat, wouldn't I?

Reminds me of graffiti I saw in the bathroom when in college, which read EAT SH!T !!! 800,000,000 FLIES CAN'T BE WRONG !!!" Yeah. take a poll to find out what is right.

Besides, the poll is so stupidly generic as to be meaningless. You would have me disagreeing with me if you registered my vote on this thing.
151 posted on 07/22/2005 12:10:04 PM PDT by chronic_loser
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To: chronic_loser


152 posted on 07/26/2005 9:55:22 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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