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1 posted on 07/20/2005 7:01:09 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Sounds like a national ID card.

Not sure if it is a good idea with a potential Hitlery regime the horizon. Won't be too long to you are hearing

"Sind ihre Papiere alle in Ordnung?"


2 posted on 07/20/2005 7:04:10 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (You are free to do as you are told.)
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To: kellynla

Yes. Maybe our party has hope.


3 posted on 07/20/2005 7:04:14 AM PDT by marylandrepub1 (Liberals outlaw God believing that 'they' are the gods and can create Heaven on Earth)
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To: kellynla

OK, good start now let's actually Git 'er done.


4 posted on 07/20/2005 7:04:38 AM PDT by jeremiah (Patrick Henry said it best, give me liberty or give me death.)
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To: kellynla

about time!
i've never liked the way they have had SS cards issued. too easy to fake. hopefully this will pass and actually work. 10-12 milllion ilegals sent home? sounds like a good start.


6 posted on 07/20/2005 7:08:27 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: kellynla
All of the estimated 10 million to 12 million illegal aliens in the United States would have to leave the country under an immigration bill introduced on Tuesday by two conservative Republican senators.

HORRORS!/sarcasm

7 posted on 07/20/2005 7:09:51 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: kellynla
Speaking as a Californian, I'd like to see it happen but doubt that it will.

The immigrant population of this state is extremely aggressive (i.e. La Raza out of L.A.) They'll make a stink all the way to the Supreme Court.

8 posted on 07/20/2005 7:10:12 AM PDT by steenkeenbadges
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>> The Kyl-Cornyn bill calls for the creation of a machine-readable, tamper-proof Social Security card that would be issued to every American in the workforce to prevent illegals from getting jobs.

I am not in favor of a national ID, but I am liking this bill already...

The SS already exists as a de facto national ID, so no big chips.

My guess is that this bill does not have a snowballs chance in hell of even getting a hearing. Who knows, if it passes both houses by some miracle, it could be W's first veto.
9 posted on 07/20/2005 7:10:30 AM PDT by mmercier (a long acquaintance with sorrow)
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To: kellynla

Let them prove they intend to enforce the laws we have before throwing money away on more laws they don't intend to enforce.


13 posted on 07/20/2005 7:13:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: kellynla
that would allow some illegals to get jobs legally and eventually gain citizenship without leaving the country

In case you folks haven't figured it out yet, Congress will simply de-fund the enforcement part in the next budget, while allowing illegals to rapidly gain citizenship. As it stands now, there are Border Patrol slots ready to be filled, but Congress simply didn't allocate any dollars to BP to hire anyone.

DEPORTATION is the only answer.

18 posted on 07/20/2005 7:19:05 AM PDT by ikka
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I sense the fine hand of Newt Gingrich behind this bill, too.


19 posted on 07/20/2005 7:20:02 AM PDT by hershey
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To: kellynla

I am surprised and heartened by this bill.


25 posted on 07/20/2005 7:29:08 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: kellynla
Sounds like a winner. I like the idea of knowing who is passing back and forth across our national border, and being able to track them. The people that gripe the loudest about National IDs and strict security would also become the biggest and most pathetic crybabies when the next 9-11 is thermonuclear.
28 posted on 07/20/2005 7:33:33 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("Something must be done, even if it doesn't work," Bob Geldof)
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Pro-immigration groups blasted the proposal. Angela Kelley of the National Immigration Forum said it was completely unworkable as well as massively expensive.

"There is no reason for the millions of illegal immigrants to come forward. We don't think this bill takes us in the direction of fixing our broken immigration system," she said.

Michele Waslin of the National Council of La Raza, the nation's largest Hispanic organization, said illegal immigrants would not sign up for voluntary deportation.

"There's no viable path for them in this bill to gain citizenship and that's problematic," she said.
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This is workable and it can be done! If the illegals do not want to leave then a bounty of $2,000.00 can be placed on them.Those who help them to hide illegals within the country should be prosecuted for aiding a foreign enemy- fined, imprisoned and loss of property, citizenship and deportation.
We cannot afford to play games with these people, our country, our lives and the Lives of our children are at stake.


37 posted on 07/20/2005 7:47:57 AM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: kellynla

Methinks the pubs have read my ( and thousands of other
's) comments on their fund raising questionaires.

Mine read 'Not one cent until the Pres. and Congress close the borders'


53 posted on 07/20/2005 8:31:05 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: kellynla

10-12 million would have to go back? That'd get about half of them. A good start none the less though.


65 posted on 07/20/2005 8:53:41 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: kellynla; FBD; All
Dean: Immigrants are GOP's 2006 foil

74 posted on 07/20/2005 9:24:28 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: kellynla

WOW - JUST WOW

Cornyn is beginning to see the light on the issue. Tamper-proof SocSec is fine, but beyond that you need a database and requirement to check that holds employers accountable. It's been done already, just needs national rollout.
86 posted on 07/20/2005 11:19:56 AM PDT by WOSG (Liberalism is wrong, it's just the Liberals don't know it yet.)
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To: kellynla

Good Post! I don't give a rat's behind if we need a national id card. Better that than our grandchildren live in a 3rd world cesspool.


100 posted on 07/20/2005 2:28:59 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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