Posted on 07/20/2005 7:01:09 AM PDT by kellynla
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - All of the estimated 10 million to 12 million illegal aliens in the United States would have to leave the country under an immigration bill introduced on Tuesday by two conservative Republican senators.
The bill by Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl and Texas Sen. John Cornyn is a tougher alternative to a rival bipartisan bill introduced two month ago that would allow some illegals to get jobs legally and eventually gain citizenship without leaving the country.
The Kyl-Cornyn bill calls for the creation of a machine-readable, tamper-proof Social Security card that would be issued to every American in the workforce to prevent illegals from getting jobs.
It would also fund the hiring of 10,000 new Department of Homeland Security personnel dedicated to weeding illegal immigrants out of the workforce and an additional 1,000 for detecting immigration fraud.
Companies that hired illegal immigrants would face tough fines.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Alot closer than Montana, try Virginia.
I agree, if Clinton were in office now in the middle of a war with nonexistant border security conservatives would rightfully be calling for his head on a stick. This is too big of a security issue to let any president get away with ignoring, let alone promoting the illegal invasion of our country during war time.
What are you nuts?
Al Gore didn't clearly try to steal the election in 2000?
Those hanging chads came from dem officials punching piles of ballots at a time for the goron.
Where where you?
In 04, the dems stole washington state, Chicago, and several other dem controlled ares, with bribes, ballot fixing and more.
The shock is that the pubs have done and said nothing.
10-12 million would have to go back? That'd get about half of them. A good start none the less though.
As appealling as your gun laws sound, I just can't live below the Mason-Dixon Line. Things move way too slow down there, I need things to happen quick fast and in a hurry.
"Al Gore didn't clearly try to steal the election in 2000?"
and the operative word was "try" to steal...
and he wasn't successful now was he.
as far as WA state & Chicago, the GOP just needs to do a better job of getting out the vote(as you correctly noted the operative words were and are "dem controlled"...and there may be and are areas where the GOP has not and may not win races for some time...but to make a blanket statement and say the last two electios were "fraudulent" is stupid. No election has never been perfect and there have always been fraudulent votes and we can continue to try and prevent future fraud but democratic elections are one hellofalot better than anything else out there.
I'd move to beautiful Virginia in a minute if the wife would only get over wanting to live in the bolshevik state of Rogue's island.
Funny, that's the place where the idea for a national I.D. card originates. Just how will this bill stop the real sources of employment for illegals? Agriculture is by it's very definition both transient and seasonal. I doubt very much if ligitimate workers in the fields have ID. Too poor. What about all those folks who employ domestic help? Like US Senators and Congress-critters? Then there is the multi-billion dollar illegal sex trade. How is a national ID going to stop those folks? Yet you would just open those doors up wide for a totalitarian government to take over the country and oh yes grease the rails for the rise of the AntiChrist.
When the entire media (except fox) is screaming about republican thievery as whole districts are stolen by the dems, that's a fraudulent election.
Letting it go will not stop it. It will only get worse.
We'll see how Hillary does it in 08.
The new currency has already been counterfeited. I don't know about new licenses (driver's licenses are run by the states), but college kids every where know how to get fake driver's licenses.
If those cards have a computer chip in them, it will have two effects: 1. it will be harder to counterfiet and 2. it will be easier for the government to abuse the power. With a computer chip in the card, the government can track where you are and where you've been, when you were there, and who you were near. Now what if your card is stolen? There's just too many problems for me to accept it.
And there's so much corruption inside the government that there's no way to ensure that nothing will be mistreated, and certainly no way to make sure illegals aren't getting cards anyway.
****
maybe, but I haven't read of any of the new driver's licenses being forged?
About one year ago, a local office (suburban area near New Orleans) of the state Department of Motor Vehicles was burglarized. This office is located in a strip of small retail shops, under a common roof. The thieves broke into the vacant shop next door and cut right through the wall.
What would the DMV office have that was worth the effort? The computer, digital camera, printer/laminating machine and several boxes of blank license forms, that's what. The DMV employees arrived the next morning to find ALL of the equipment gone.
The office in question just so happens to be in a heavily Hispanic part of town. Perhaps that's just an interesting coincidence - but then again, maybe not. In any case, you can bet that there are license forgeries out there.
I was just thinking, I don't believe credit cards have been forged?
of course we know that they have been stolen but I don't believe they have been forged...
I understand and appreciate your point about the national ID's but we live in a verrrrrry dangerous world now and we have to protect ourselves and our families and we have to "take out the trash"or leave ourselves open to more 9/11's or WORSE!
It's just gotten too expensive to allow illegals and too dangerous to allow terrorists to stay here
simple solution,
you run the license/ID on the computer that every officer in
America has in his/her vehicle and if it comes up BOGUS you arrest the clown...
next case...
I'll tell you something up front: I'd much rather deal with a national id that DOES something about the REALITY of immigration failure, than your delusions about the MIGHTS and MAYBEs of a national id card.
One is a problem that exists and one is a problem that doesn't exist.
I'm all for it though.
...You two are rabidly delusional...
From you, I'll take that as a compliment.
You look out a window but you don't see past the glass.
Learn to look deeper, grasshopper.
easy to criticize...as we've learned from the 'Rats..
do you have a better solution?
because what we have been doing is not working
and we can't continue to allow illegals and terrorists to roam the country unabated...
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.