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U.S. Republicans Introduce Tough Immigration Bill
WASHINGTONPOST.COM ^ | July 19, 2005 | Alan Elsner

Posted on 07/20/2005 7:01:09 AM PDT by kellynla

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - All of the estimated 10 million to 12 million illegal aliens in the United States would have to leave the country under an immigration bill introduced on Tuesday by two conservative Republican senators.

The bill by Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl and Texas Sen. John Cornyn is a tougher alternative to a rival bipartisan bill introduced two month ago that would allow some illegals to get jobs legally and eventually gain citizenship without leaving the country.

The Kyl-Cornyn bill calls for the creation of a machine-readable, tamper-proof Social Security card that would be issued to every American in the workforce to prevent illegals from getting jobs.

It would also fund the hiring of 10,000 new Department of Homeland Security personnel dedicated to weeding illegal immigrants out of the workforce and an additional 1,000 for detecting immigration fraud.

Companies that hired illegal immigrants would face tough fines.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; bordersecurity; borderxxi; bushamnesty; cafta; cfr; cornyn; foreignrelations; ftaa; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; invasionusa; kyl
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1 posted on 07/20/2005 7:01:09 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Sounds like a national ID card.

Not sure if it is a good idea with a potential Hitlery regime the horizon. Won't be too long to you are hearing

"Sind ihre Papiere alle in Ordnung?"


2 posted on 07/20/2005 7:04:10 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (You are free to do as you are told.)
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To: kellynla

Yes. Maybe our party has hope.


3 posted on 07/20/2005 7:04:14 AM PDT by marylandrepub1 (Liberals outlaw God believing that 'they' are the gods and can create Heaven on Earth)
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To: kellynla

OK, good start now let's actually Git 'er done.


4 posted on 07/20/2005 7:04:38 AM PDT by jeremiah (Patrick Henry said it best, give me liberty or give me death.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Sound like a proof of citizenship card which allows one to work. How else are we going to get this under control? To hell with the fears of a national ID card.


5 posted on 07/20/2005 7:08:22 AM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country.)
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To: kellynla

about time!
i've never liked the way they have had SS cards issued. too easy to fake. hopefully this will pass and actually work. 10-12 milllion ilegals sent home? sounds like a good start.


6 posted on 07/20/2005 7:08:27 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: kellynla
All of the estimated 10 million to 12 million illegal aliens in the United States would have to leave the country under an immigration bill introduced on Tuesday by two conservative Republican senators.

HORRORS!/sarcasm

7 posted on 07/20/2005 7:09:51 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: kellynla
Speaking as a Californian, I'd like to see it happen but doubt that it will.

The immigrant population of this state is extremely aggressive (i.e. La Raza out of L.A.) They'll make a stink all the way to the Supreme Court.

8 posted on 07/20/2005 7:10:12 AM PDT by steenkeenbadges
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To: kellynla
>> The Kyl-Cornyn bill calls for the creation of a machine-readable, tamper-proof Social Security card that would be issued to every American in the workforce to prevent illegals from getting jobs.

I am not in favor of a national ID, but I am liking this bill already...

The SS already exists as a de facto national ID, so no big chips.

My guess is that this bill does not have a snowballs chance in hell of even getting a hearing. Who knows, if it passes both houses by some miracle, it could be W's first veto.
9 posted on 07/20/2005 7:10:30 AM PDT by mmercier (a long acquaintance with sorrow)
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To: conservativewasp

You wrote: "Sound like a proof of citizenship card which allows one to work. How else are we going to get this under control? To hell with the fears of a national ID card."

I changed it to:

Sound like a party which allows one to work. How else are we going to get this under control? To hell with the fears of the national socialists.

Its a slippery slope. Only a fool rushes in where wisemen fear to tred.


10 posted on 07/20/2005 7:10:54 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (You are free to do as you are told.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

"Sind ihre Papiere alle in Ordnung?"

English please! LOL

There are worse things than having to carry a National ID like dying. Many of us in America have been carrying a national ID most of our lives. (ex: Social Security, Military & Government ID)

Semper Fi,
Kelly


11 posted on 07/20/2005 7:13:04 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: conservativewasp

To hell with the fears of a national ID card<<

Really. What do people think an SS Card is anyway? A National ID would be no differant than a combined SS/Drivers License.

I'm for anything that will weed out illegals.


12 posted on 07/20/2005 7:13:10 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Illegals should be Caught and Deported; not Released and Supported!)
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To: kellynla

Let them prove they intend to enforce the laws we have before throwing money away on more laws they don't intend to enforce.


13 posted on 07/20/2005 7:13:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: Iron Matron

The Driver's Licence IS the national ID card
Get over it....


14 posted on 07/20/2005 7:15:04 AM PDT by traumer
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To: conservativewasp
"To hell with the fears of a national ID card."

I agree, I've never understood the fear. We have driver's licenses, military ID cards, school ID cards, Social Security Cards and a gazillion credit cards. What info would this card gather that isn't already available to the government. If a national ID card helps stop the illegal infiltration of my country let's do it!

15 posted on 07/20/2005 7:15:59 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: jeremiah

Enforcement is the problem which the feds and the WH have failed miserably since 9/11. We secure the borders in S. Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan yet leave the front and back doors in our own country WIDE OPEN! And allow millions of illegals to roam about unabated.
How stupid is that!


16 posted on 07/20/2005 7:16:31 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
A nother decade or two of whats been going on & this country won't be worth saving. Somethings got to be done and NOW.

This bill -warts & all - is the best to come around. Hopefully congress can pass it relatively intact.

17 posted on 07/20/2005 7:18:31 AM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: kellynla
that would allow some illegals to get jobs legally and eventually gain citizenship without leaving the country

In case you folks haven't figured it out yet, Congress will simply de-fund the enforcement part in the next budget, while allowing illegals to rapidly gain citizenship. As it stands now, there are Border Patrol slots ready to be filled, but Congress simply didn't allocate any dollars to BP to hire anyone.

DEPORTATION is the only answer.

18 posted on 07/20/2005 7:19:05 AM PDT by ikka
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To: kellynla

I sense the fine hand of Newt Gingrich behind this bill, too.


19 posted on 07/20/2005 7:20:02 AM PDT by hershey
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To: traumer

Get over what?

I'm FOR National I.D...and the Drivers License as it currently is issued is definately NOT a National I. D...not the type needed at any rate, so YOU get over it!


20 posted on 07/20/2005 7:20:59 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Illegals should be Caught and Deported; not Released and Supported!)
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