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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Sound like a proof of citizenship card which allows one to work. How else are we going to get this under control? To hell with the fears of a national ID card.


5 posted on 07/20/2005 7:08:22 AM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country.)
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To: conservativewasp

You wrote: "Sound like a proof of citizenship card which allows one to work. How else are we going to get this under control? To hell with the fears of a national ID card."

I changed it to:

Sound like a party which allows one to work. How else are we going to get this under control? To hell with the fears of the national socialists.

Its a slippery slope. Only a fool rushes in where wisemen fear to tred.


10 posted on 07/20/2005 7:10:54 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (You are free to do as you are told.)
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To: conservativewasp

To hell with the fears of a national ID card<<

Really. What do people think an SS Card is anyway? A National ID would be no differant than a combined SS/Drivers License.

I'm for anything that will weed out illegals.


12 posted on 07/20/2005 7:13:10 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Illegals should be Caught and Deported; not Released and Supported!)
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To: conservativewasp
"To hell with the fears of a national ID card."

I agree, I've never understood the fear. We have driver's licenses, military ID cards, school ID cards, Social Security Cards and a gazillion credit cards. What info would this card gather that isn't already available to the government. If a national ID card helps stop the illegal infiltration of my country let's do it!

15 posted on 07/20/2005 7:15:59 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: conservativewasp

Your ss card has always been a national id card. I don't know what everyones fear is of having a national id card. We already have birth certificates, SS cards. Why not make them better?
Without a proper proof of citizenship, we will never be able to curb the problem of illegal citizens.

Send them all back- I like the sounds of this bill.


23 posted on 07/20/2005 7:27:34 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: conservativewasp
To hell with the fears of a national ID card.

Well, 010-12-1234 (as you are known as by your government), if a national ID card isn't a problem, why not an RFID chip? The RFID chip will even let us track people 'who are kidnapped'.

If you don't like the idea of an RFID chip, then why not just put a GPS chip into the national ID card, and have all of your medical and criminal history stored on the card as well?

We were specifically told when we were given Social Security numbers that they would never be used for identification. It would be great if the government would start keeping its word.

If you want to keep illegals out, build a G*d damn wall.

26 posted on 07/20/2005 7:32:23 AM PDT by BostonianRightist (I don't trust a government I can't shoot back at.)
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To: conservativewasp
Sound like a proof of citizenship card which allows one to work.

Seeing as how it's illegal for an alien to work in the US without a work permit already, every time I've applied for a job I've had to show proof of citizenship. The criteria seem to be either a passport, or a birth certificate and other stuff. Of course, I'm applying for professional-level jobs at Fortune 500 companies, not for a job as a dishwasher. So I don't see the problem here.

32 posted on 07/20/2005 7:37:16 AM PDT by RonF
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To: conservativewasp
I agree. A drivers license is just that. It was never meant to be used as a national ID card. We need a national ID card on the same level as a passport
69 posted on 07/20/2005 9:04:45 AM PDT by ghitma (Lifter)
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To: conservativewasp
To hell with the fears of a national ID card.

Funny, that's the place where the idea for a national I.D. card originates. Just how will this bill stop the real sources of employment for illegals? Agriculture is by it's very definition both transient and seasonal. I doubt very much if ligitimate workers in the fields have ID. Too poor. What about all those folks who employ domestic help? Like US Senators and Congress-critters? Then there is the multi-billion dollar illegal sex trade. How is a national ID going to stop those folks? Yet you would just open those doors up wide for a totalitarian government to take over the country and oh yes grease the rails for the rise of the AntiChrist.

70 posted on 07/20/2005 9:08:03 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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