Posted on 07/19/2005 6:37:07 AM PDT by YaYa123
Matt Cooper called Karl Rove on July 11, 2003.
In his TIME article, Matt Cooper wrote what he calls an honest accounting of his testimony to the Grand Jury, and the following is how Cooper described his call to Karl Rove on July 11.
ROVE in TIME magazine: "Was it through my conversation with Rove that I learned for the first time that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA and may have been responsible for sending him? Yes.
I'm not buying that. Granted, Robert Novak's column outting Valerie Plame didn't appear till July 14.
But the State Department memo which explained the role Wilson's wife played in her husband's Niger trip, was taken aboard Air Force One by Colin Powell, on the president's July 7 trip to Africa. In one account, Powell was "waving the memo around". In a new twist, Ari Fleisher is being accused of sharing the memo contents with reporters who were aboard Air Force One.
I don't know if Matt Cooper went on the Africa trip, but even if he didn't, there's no way Cooper would not have gotten wind of the memo's contents before his July 11 phone call to Karl Rove. One even has to wonder why Cooper would have been calling Rove in the first place, if not to obtain confirmation on Wilson's wife.
(And even if Matt Cooper is such a piss poor reporter that he might have missed out on what every other Washington reporter supposedly knew, you can be sure his wife Mandy Grunwald was in on the latest Washington buzz and would have told him.)
I believe it's more likely Matt Cooper, not Karl Rove, lied to the Grand Jury, and I think Cooper's lie was about what he knew and when he knew it. He had to have known about Valerie Plame before Karl Rove told him.
I think it's highly unlikely Cooper would put information in his TIME article which differed from his Grand Jury testimony.
I've been following the facts of the case on Powerline.
Read Cooper's latest drivel - he spins almost every fact out of context, plays word games, uses his "art" to mislead and distort the issue.
If his writing is any indication of his character, he's a lying weasel. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in jail with Miller.
One other point. Or rather question I have. Who did Matt Cooper call first...Karl Rove or Scooter Libby?
Shouldn't that read Cooper?
This is all about the changing of the guard. Bush and Goss are cleaning house and the MSM&D don't like it!
I never quite understood why everyone assumes that it would have been the only copy of the memo.
Wow!!!!Now that is assuredness. Seriously though you may very well be correct. I understand that the Memo was in fact a big part of the SP investigation recently.
Isn't Cooper's wife a big Clinton-ista?........
Yes...Mandy Grunwald.
I've been wondering for at least 2 weeks if the supposed leaker that is being protected by Miller and everybody else is none other than Colin Powell. After all, he seems to be the one who took the reported memo aboard AF1 and he is such a hero to the left I can see them trying to hang Karl Rove in order to protect Powell. And there is no way in hell a reporter for Time or the NY Times would go to jail to protect a Republican.
Of course SHE didn't know anything about the identity of Ms. Plame's husband's wife........
"Yes...Mandy Grunwald."
Perhaps that's who Judith Miller is protecting...
It's a good post.
People keep asking why the investigation is continuing, especially since there appears to be a lot of evidence that Plame was not undercover and outing her was not a crime. Could it be that someone is being investigated for perjury?
I would love to get everyone on record regarding how they feel about perjury in this context, and then watch the fun if an accusation of it is in fact made.
Certainly we have a history with this in the political context already.
But silly me, I look for logical consistency in politics. I should know better.
thank you so much for correcting my stupid mistake. Of course I meant to type "COOPER", not "ROVE"
> ... I believe it's more likely Matt Cooper,
> not Karl Rove, lied to the Grand Jury, ...
It's more likely that Cooper is lying ABOUT what he
testified. Spinning and dissembling on the court
house steps is a liberal technique pioneered by
Clinton hack Sydney Blumenthal in Feb 1998.
The theory is that since grand jury proceedings are
secret, no transcript will surface and contradict
the spinner. Unfortunately for Sydney, the transcripts
did later get released.
lol, right.
I believe this case has gone beyond leaks and columns and journalists. Read what Isikoff writes today on MSNBC about Fitzgerald, the presecutor. This guy takes no prisoners, and he's prosecuted some high level national security threats.
What if Fitzgerald has stumbled upon an insidious agency-wide effort to thwart our own national security by undercutting the Bush administration? What if there exists some Clintonites within the agency who neglected or missed very important intelligence that would have prevented 9/11? We all know that the 9/11 Commission white-washed a ton of stuff. I'm no tin-foiler, but I am now beginning to believe this aint about the press anymore.
Could be, but it wouldn't surprise in the least if she is protecting Wilson himself.
What *was* Sandy Berger getting from the Archives?
Interesting tie-in with Berger. I read earlier this week that the judge in his case has suspended Berger's sentencing date indefinitely.
Could it be these two cases are intricately woven together, and that the press (in their egocentric as all getout) manner, has mistakenly thought this was about a stupid leak that didn't break any laws? The White House press corps thinks they've finally got their Watergate, when in fact, they might have something much bigger and not about them at all. This could destroy a lot of over-inflated egos. Helen Thomas will need a shrink.
I'm not so sure on that. The sworn testimony is supposed to be truthful, but there is generally no crime by publishing lies. The remedies for publishing lies are contained in defamation law, not in criminal law.
IIRC, some of the people who testified in grand juries of Clinto cronies came out and lied about their testimony.
See, for a parallel, where 36 media organizations signed on to a legal brief that asserts the "outing" of Plame was not criminal. That brief was submitted to the DC Circuit Court in March of this year. Yet today, these very same media outlets persist with the argument that a crime was committed.
The only reasonable conclusion is that they are liars, and one is hard pressed to figure out what part of their assertions, if any, represents truth.
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