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To: Red Badger

I believe this case has gone beyond leaks and columns and journalists. Read what Isikoff writes today on MSNBC about Fitzgerald, the presecutor. This guy takes no prisoners, and he's prosecuted some high level national security threats.
What if Fitzgerald has stumbled upon an insidious agency-wide effort to thwart our own national security by undercutting the Bush administration? What if there exists some Clintonites within the agency who neglected or missed very important intelligence that would have prevented 9/11? We all know that the 9/11 Commission white-washed a ton of stuff. I'm no tin-foiler, but I am now beginning to believe this aint about the press anymore.


16 posted on 07/19/2005 7:02:43 AM PDT by Galtoid
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To: Galtoid
I agree. The MSM is bending over backwards, sideways and inside out to cover this up with Rove-O-Rama. The NYT House of Cards is teetering in a hurricane. No One is asking the question : If Not ROVE, Then Who?. The prosecutor has said publicly that ROVE IS NOT THE FOCUS OF THIS INVESTIGATION. The press is collectively closing its eyes and chanting like The Cowardly Lion in The Wizard of Oz, "It IS about ROVE, It IS about Rove!" Only, unlike the poor Lion, they ARE fooling themselves. This whole situation will explode when the Grand Jury hands down indictments to someone the press already knows about. A Pulitzer is just waiting to be picked by some REAL journalist who is sane enough to write the truth........
23 posted on 07/19/2005 7:13:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (HURRICANES: God's way of telling you it's time to clean out the freezer...............)
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To: Galtoid

"What if Fitzgerald has stumbled upon an insidious agency-wide effort to thwart our own national security by undercutting the Bush administration?"

There is a seperate FBI investigation into the dessemination of the forged NIGER documents that has been hiding under the radar. I beleive Joe Wilsons OP ED piece released classified information. The whole business of being given an "operational Secret" clearance without signing a Non Disclosure agreement and then being debriefed in his home by the CIA stinks to high heaven IMHO.


24 posted on 07/19/2005 7:14:53 AM PDT by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: Galtoid
Here's an article I found while doing research on the multitude of CIA resignations a few days ago, which at the time I dismissed as moonbat rantings...BUT:

Why did DCI George Tenet suddenly resign on June 3rd, only to be followed a day later by James Pavitt, the CIA's Deputy Director of Operations (DDO)?

The real reasons, contrary to the saturation spin being put out by major news outlets, have nothing to do with Tenet's role as taking the fall for alleged 9/11 and Iraqi intelligence “failures” before the upcoming presidential election.

Both resignations, perhaps soon to be followed by resignations from Colin Powell and his deputy Richard Armitage, are about the imminent and extremely messy demise of George W. Bush and his Neocon administration in a coup d'etat being executed by the Central Intelligence Agency. The coup, in the planning for at least two years, has apparently become an urgent priority as a number of deepening crises threaten a global meltdown. Shortly after the “surprise” Tenet-Pavitt resignations, current and former senior members of the U.S. intelligence community and the Justice Department told journalist Wayne Madsen, a former Naval intelligence officer, that they were directly connected to the criminal investigation of a 2003 White House leak that openly exposed Valerie Plame as an undercover CIA officer.

Seymour Hersh dropped a major bombshell that went virtually unnoticed, 54 paragraphs deep into an October 27, 2003 story for the New Yorker titled “The Stovepipe.”

“Who produced the fake Niger papers? There is nothing approaching a consensus on this question within the intelligence community. There has been published speculation about the intelligence services of several different countries. One theory, favored by some journalists in Rome, is that [the Italian intelligence service] Sismi produced the false documents and passed them to Panorama for publication.

“Another explanation was provided by a former senior C.I.A. officer. He had begun talking to me about the Niger papers in March, when I first wrote about the forgery, and said, 'Somebody deliberately let something false get in there.'

He became more forthcoming in subsequent months, eventually saying that a small group of disgruntled retired C.I.A. clandestine operators had banded together in the late summer of last year and drafted the fraudulent documents themselves.”

Source

Okay...there is much misinformation in the article which has now been disproven, as Rove/Bush/Cheney did not leak Plame's name, but what about the basic premise that this whole thing was a coup set up by the CIA? That would explain the shakeup at the CIA, Goss's aide, Patrick Murray was literally coming unglued over leaks within the agency. You will notice that Powell's name is in there too as being complicit. They are now trying to hang that memo around Bush's neck.

Yes, I have my tin foil hat securely on, LOL!

36 posted on 07/19/2005 7:50:06 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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