Posted on 07/18/2005 7:57:49 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War
breaking, more to come
Tonkin posted this link awhile back about a great event coming up in Las Vegas. I intend to go, so FReepmail me if you're going too:
http://welcomehome.aviationnation.org/
This is like losing an old Ranger buddy, sad. I never thought he would die. He was bigger than life and a great commanding General for the fight that they had given him. All the troops loved Westie, he was a GI's General.
Lastly....General, Sir we NEVER lost a battle, you and I, we NEVER lost the war. It was the cowards that lost the fight to keep those people free. God bless you and keep you,......forever.
Bump & ping to post and earlier posts within thread.
(How I do it is click on reply-to posts within threads)
You could just about hear the moanings of the Once Great Commie Generals and Admirals as our real Generals and Admirals with the best Army, Marines, Air Force and Navy people in the history of the world sliced and diced the supposedly great Iranian Army.
As you noted we sliced them into pie, I would say mincemeat and squirted whip cream on them.
What was done in our second war with Iraq was again amazing. That will be the prototype of any future land wars.
Hey I didn't know you were going to this, maybe we can meet you up there! :)
Well basically that's what I was trying to say. We are now even negotiating to get the base at Cam Ranh Bay back. They fear the Chicoms as much as anyone. But that having been said, life still sucks for the people of Vietnam. But for Vietnam to be a threat, they needed the backing of a power the likes of the Soviet Union, which they don't have anymore.
Yet it didn't stop you from sliming them. They died for nothing, as you stated.
“God knows, I salute all the vets who have sacrificed for this country. That does not change my opinion about the folly of Vietman.
It was a wasteful, unessessary war littered with the broken bodies of men who, IMHO, died in vain.”
Your original expression was: "56,000 dead. For nothing."
You label answering the call of our nation and making the ultimate sacrifice “nothing”? Seems to me that you are reluctant to admit that your statement was rather cruel and stupid.
If you meant, as in your reply to me, that these patriots died in vain, then that presupposes that you have a clairvoyant view of history as it unfolds, knowing that during that period some goal in your mind was to be achieved.
I can understand those that did not agree that we should have gone to the Nam. That is a different discussion, not one that is germane to the manor in which you expressed yourself, which is, in essence, calling all those that went there, and especially those that died, fools.
Some advice jerk, just drop out of site for a while before you really start pissing people off.
Sorry...I also assumed, and wasn't clear enough on the point I was making. I was saying that the "negotiated peace" was pretty clearly a win for our enemy.
"I was saying that the "negotiated peace" was pretty clearly a win for our enemy"
Yes from a political standpoint. Agree. They got what they
wanted, without being blasted out of existence.
No kidding.
I smell something. I sure never encounterd this guy before.
“No kidding. I smell something. I sure never encounterd this guy before.”
I’m hoping that this guy is some immature kid posting.
More I fear, it is the smell of that liberal attitude of the “me” generation. Lip service to patriotism, screw you, as long as I end up on top.
This guy has me here shaking my head in utter disgust. I am absolutely beside myself at the moment.
Thanks for the link – may get there!
Yes, I agree.
More I fear, it is the smell of that liberal attitude of the “me” generation. Lip service to patriotism, screw you, as long as I end up on top.
STFU!
You were warned more than once.
Don't badmouth service veterans.
You deserve a hosing and or banning.
JLO
Point well taken. I appreciate the emotions of the responses and should have said it differently.
I've been following this thread off and on since it was posted. Without taking sides in the debate, zarf has been civil from the beginning and, in the American tradition, I defend his right to speak.
Nam 67 and 69/70.
Very true. The rub is can we trust the wisdom of the civilian leadership to learn those same lessons? Clearly GWB has....would a Hillary Clinton (god for bid)?
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