Ebonics suggested for district

San Bernardino County Sun ^ | 17 July 2005 | Irma Lemus

[RightWingAtheist]

Yo buss dis. Students Accumulatin New noin Optimizin Futua Accomplishment Initiative Sheeit!

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Radical thought, I suppose. But nonetheless, I am curious.

[RightWingAtheist]

Yo buss dis. I think all replies to dis tread should be run trough de ebonics wrapper befo dey be posted. It's only right in case some interested parties be readin an' need to understan' what we be sayin. Biyatch. Sheeit!

[bannie]

Texeira said research has shown that students learn better when they fully comprehend the language they are being taught in.

Hm. Should be:

"...they fully comprehend the language in which they are being taught.

[Fred Hayek]

"They can't learn because they live in the inner city and are minoritys"

This was the exact view promulgated at Newark Central High School (NJ) in the 1970's. And if a student there really tried to learn something:
"Oreo cookie"
"Uncle Tom"
"Race Traitor"
"White MF"
From the bloody "faculty"!

[bannie]

Yep...It's a case of not letting them in on the language of success.

[RightWingAtheist]

Wait, wait. Here's the same post again, after first being run through the Ebonics Translator, and then the Jive Dialectizer:

Yo buss dis. ah' dink all replies t'dis tread should be run trough de ebonics wrappuh' befo dey be posted. It's only right in case some interested parties be eyeballin an' need t'understan' whut we be sayin. 'S coo', bro. Biyatch. Lop some boogie. Sheeit! Right on!

[NerdDad]

"But I will demand excellence from my children, and those around me -- in spite of the moonbats."

Good for you.

Don't feel alone or like it is a strictly African-American problem. We live in Northeast MS where our boys attend the 58% black public schools. It is a constant battle to get our boys to spit the mush out, enunciate and drop the nonsense words from their vocabulary. And I require the same from any young person with whom I speak.

I've spent a lifetime with a shotgun or typewriter banging in my ears. I admit that my hearing is not nearly what it once was. I also admit to being a slow-talking Texan. As I approach 50, both these things are taking a toll on my ability to understand a person who mumbles and runs words together.

I love working with the high school band kids and running concession stands both at the school and a local flea market. I force these kids (adults too) to to repeat themselves constantly until they slow down, speak up, and don't use nonsense words. I'm sure it frustrates them but it also gives me an occasional opportunity explain that they will one day be expected to speak clearly and respectfully to get a job. Maybe they won't be asking an old, fat, white guy like me for that job, but they will be speaking to someone who will make a decision about whether they get a better opportunity based not only on their skill but on their ability to express themselves.

In nearly 7 years volunteering with the high school, I've had only one negative response from a parent. That parent has always been a jerk, from the days when he went to school with my wife. His child has learned well from his father's example. I pity them and I pray that something will happen to break that cycle before the next generation.

[RightWingAtheist]

What was it? It got deleted before I could read it.

[trillabodilla]

I find this extremely racist toward the students. They're basically saying the poor blacks are too dumb to learn proper English.

Where's the outrage?

[bannie]

HAHA!

Yo buss dis. hoebug, fly away home! yo crib be on fire: yo crum snachas will burn! Sheeit!

THAT used to be: "Laydbug, fly away home! Your house is on fire: Your children will burn!"

A LADYbug is a HOEbug!

[Heyworth]

"Ebonics is a different language, it's not slang as many believe,' Texeira said. "For many of these students Ebonics is their language, and it should be considered a foreign language. These students should be taught like other students who speak a foreign language.'

As a black friend of mine pointed out, shaking his head over the whole Ebonics thing, "I've never met a black person who couldn't understand what they're saying on TV."

[trillabodilla]

Remember the movie "Airplane" where the nun knew "jive" and was an interpreter? They translated it on the screen in subtitles. That was so funny!

[wardaddy]

how incredibly stupid

[OB1kNOb]

"I be thinkin that Ebonics be stupid" -Spike Lee

[radiohead]

I don't want to repeat everything you said, but you are right on. I despair sometimes, hearing blacks complain for years on end about how they can't succeed in this country. (I'm black; they talk to me) : ) Meanwhile, newcomers start small businesses, often in crime-ridden, poor black neighborhoods where no one else would come in.

You should hear blacks talk about the 'secret money' the Koreans or other internationals get when they come to this country. It's useless to tell them about the SBA (whose funds are available to legal immigrants) or the Asian family banks where family members pool their resources so others can open businesses, etc. To hear the average black tell it, the US govt is meeting these people at the airport w/a big check. Meanwhile, the Korean grocer in my old Philly neighborhood worked 7 days a week and slept in the store during snow storms so he could be open when other stores were closed. It takes hard work, not a handout from the government, and many blacks never make the connection.

Why the black churches haven't set up something similar to the Asian family banks is beyond me. There could be black-owned businesses in every black neighborhood if that's what they really wanted.

I have several advanced degrees and am often the only black person at conferences, classes, etc. I fail to see how teaching Ebonics is going to produce more black lawyers or PhDs or anything else except more welfare recipients.

[MindBender26]

>No half measures. All blacks must be taught using Ebonics, no exceptions.

You racist pig, you.

We cannot segregate students by race. All students, Black, White, Latino, Oriental, Native American; all must be taught to speak Ebonics.

For example "I be making par on that 17th MF hole or I be takin' my clubs and my hoopie back to the crib for a week!"

or

"He be da head Professor at this here college? Where he stay? Who be his ho? The honkey bitch or the sista who be passin'?"

[OB1kNOb]

From Joe Bob's Drive In:.........;-)

"Because of my special skills, I could also be employed as a translator of Ebonics into Redneck. For example, we begin with a simple Ebonic phrase: "Yall don be messin wif me." First we translate that into traditional, outmoded, old-fogey WHITE English: "All of you are requested to cease being aggressive." Now we take THAT sentence and translate it into a THIRD language, spoken mainly in Appalachia, the Deep South and East Texas: "Yall don be messin wif me."

The main difference between the Ebonic sentence and the Hillbilly translation is that, in Hillbilly, there is a full expectoration between the words "messin" and "wif." So the sentence actually SOUNDS like this: "Yall don be messin (hock one up and spit it out) wif me." The Oakland school board is absolutely right. This has opened up a whole new field of serious academic investigation. Ebonians unite, for your right to jive! "

[reagan_fanatic]

I need a m** f** bambulance

[Liz]

Nice going.