Posted on 07/17/2005 6:33:55 AM PDT by nsmart
Good Discussion item. Pape says our troops on the Arabian Peninsula are causing terrorism. He recommends 'off shore balancing'.
This guy had an article on Patriot in the Gulf War that was questionable. As I read him, he's anti-military through and through. And the notion that we "cause" terrorism has been blasted out of the water by Peter Lance, Gerald Posner, and others who showed that OBL was violently anti-U.S. BEFORE the Gulf War. To the Arab loonies, any American alive ANYWHERE is "in his space." They are just like the commies in that regard.
Have you turned on C-Span? The discussion is interesting.
No I haven't but I won't either...
I think I can already tell you the jist of what one side will say and what the other side will say....
He makes the point that Suicide bombing has increased. As in Spain and London, the recruits are often Saudi but increasingly local residents.
As for being anti-military, does that mean he wants our troops safe at home? I say that is pro-military.
Mike,
I can understand your hesitance.
Ask the Germans in 1945 about "troops at home."
Our troops should always be forward deployed. (BTW, none of the early presidents wanted standing armies IN THE US!)
As for suicide bombings increasing? Good. fewer of 'em. Even the Japanese in WW II started to run out of "volunteers." See Victor Hanson, "Ripples of Battle," his chapter on Okinawa.
Pape sounds like an appeaser. Claiming islamic madness is due to our troops in Arabia BS!! I guess thats why the muzzies target phillipino's, Thais, Balinese, Kashmiris, Serbs etc.. etc.. I notice he has a lot of muzzies agreeing with him!!! Enemy within!!!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1444639/posts
He explained that the Bali bombing was to kill Australians. Over 100 were Aussies.
The lady infidel caller just explained it to him; Islam's plan is to win either by infiltration or homicide!!!
I found Mr. Pape's comment that the "Suicide Bombing Vest" originating with the Tamil Tigers quite interesting. HOWEVER...................
I disagree completely with his ONLY solution to our current problems: The complete withdrawal of Western Military forces from the Middle East.
and what about all the rest?? Could it be because they're infidels???
Has our military been stationed in the Middle East before terrorism to protect oil?
He is being praised (from England) for his 'common sense' now.
Briefings to Dept of Defense, Homeland Security, and 15 members of Congress. He is certainly getting around.
Tha caller with the middle east accent just said its because our soldiers are killing innocent people. Papes response was to nod in agreement!!! Im waiting for him to scream how we deserved 9-11. I wonder if Rachel Corrie is someone he admires???
Obviously no innocents need to die. But equally obvious is that many innocents DO die in combat. Do you dispute this?
You sound as if you have an open mind. My type of guy. ;-)
al-Qaeda's stated strategy is to attack the large western countries to get them out of the Mid-East. Then concentrate on getting Israel once the large protectors are out. Pope needs to read al-Qaeda.
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