Posted on 07/15/2005 7:55:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Freedom of Speech. Viva la Revolution!
One thing's for sure, it's a dead-end street.
I often wonder how he managed to get this far in French politics.
If he 's so great, why is he only Major Bob?
He was a green beret and only a major because the military is still getting clintonization out of its system!!
No, we bomb, invade, replace their corrupt, backward leaders with decent ones and show the huddled masses of the Middle East that there's more to life than splattering women and babies on a bus. Anything less is surrender to an extremist element of their culture. I would love for other nations to work together with us in accomplishing this massive, difficult task, but they have another "solution": Pay the corrupt, backward leadership not to kill us and otherwise stick their head in the sand while their non-assimilatory Muslim population grows. As for closing the borders, I'm with you but that's the kind of thing our progressive friends consider "Orwellian."
"does not have to accept speech which on the pretext that it is happening in a place of worship calls for hate and murder."
I couldn't have put it better myself. We should do the same here in the US.
I've looked at some of your old posts and all you ever seem to do is take the left side of an argument. If you didn't claim to be a Buchanan-bot you would have been zotted. I don't understand why the moderators tolerate left-wing propoganda... as long as it's done in the name of Pat Buchanan.
Either one would be fine.
That's fine, Carter was terrible. But Khomeni was in Paris, and sending his tapes back from there. Therefore, we need a Guantanamo for the "imams of hate".
Regards, Ivan
Geez, is there ANYTHING that doesnt make these hate-filled savages MAD?
Don't worry "radical" Islamics you won't be homeless for long.
Israel and the US are set on creating a terrorist IslamicLand- Gaza.
Gotta love Sarkozy, He is pro-US, anti-muslim... he might actually make france a viable country again...MIGHT
That man may resucitate France yet.
http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2003-11/22/article03.shtml
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Might have been moi. I've posted a couple of times in the past 10 days that the secular French are way ahead of the European and British in this area. The lessons of Algeria and their lack of respect for any religion have guided them. Britian and the other Western European countries enforced (not permitted - enforced) a multi-culturalism that virtually guaranteed that new-comers (mostly muslim ala the pakis in GB) maintained a separate and isolated sub culture, in most cases one subsidized financially by the host government.
The truth is that with the exception of the major disconnect concerning Sadam and Iraq, the French have been our staunchest ally in the WOT.
"I never understand the French. Nothing they do makes sense to me."
One can not confuse French self-absorbed and avaricious foreign policy with their domestic policy.
"While London hosts terrorists, Paris hosts a top-secret counterterrorism center, code-named Alliance Base, the existence of which was recently reported by the Washington Post. At Alliance Base, six major Western governments have shared since 2002 intelligence and run counterterrorism operations - the latter makes the operation unique.
More broadly, President Chirac instructed French intelligence agencies just days after September 11, 2001, to share terrorism data with their American counterparts "as if they were your own service." The cooperation is working: A former acting CIA director, John E. McLaughlin, called the bilateral intelligence tie "one of the best in the world." The British may have a "special relationship" with Washington on Iraq, but the French have one with America in the war on terror.
France accords terrorist suspects fewer rights than any other Western state, permitting interrogation without a lawyer, lengthy pretrial incarcerations, and evidence acquired under dubious circumstances. Were he a terrorism suspect, the author of "Al-Qaida's Jihad in Europe," Evan Kohlmann, says he "would least like to be held under" the French system."
http://www.nysun.com/article/16819
That is why when the left claimed/s that US was alienating potential European allies in the war on terror it was bogus. France and Europe were/are still cooperating with the US on terror. It is in their own interest of self-preservation to do so.
Where they fail it is because they fail internally by too much PC tolerance, like the Brits tolerating and promoting radical Imams and Mosques, not because they want to punish us. They are not out there spiting themselves.
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What are you talking about? The French are tougher on terrorists within their borders than any western nation. And, please describe their "appeasement program".
As for the heat deaths, aside from the fact that it is utterly meaningless in this discussion, how many Chicagoans died from the same causes in the past few summers?
It's only weird if you buy all the lame fench bashing here at FR (no I'm not fond of the French - they're self serving pompous, arrogant sob's).
But when it comes to their self interest and internal security, they're a hell of a lot tougher than we are.
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