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The man Bush should nominate to replace O'Connor
Jewish World Review ^ | July 8, 2005 | George Will

Posted on 07/15/2005 6:40:06 AM PDT by epson8750

"Some judges profess a single explanatory theory for construing the Constitution, a doctrine that makes one value — majority rule, or limiting government, or minimizing judges' discretion — trump all others. Most such judges will flinch from following that doctrine to conclusions inconsistent with either a long line of precedents or the nation's current sense of justice. But flinching will not save such judges from being portrayed as willing to let severe logic lead the law to conclusions that the nation has decided are unacceptable."

"... judicial responsibility for refereeing, by constitutional principles, the government's behavior. And the public's behavior, too. Majority rule, to which the political branches are subservient, does not trump constitutional law. This provides a central drama of America's polity — judicial review. It is in tension with democracy, yet is indispensable if the Constitution is to limit government. "

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antimajoritarian; antipopulist; blackrobedmullahs; elitist; georgewill; judicialnominees; oligarchial; scotus
George Will fancies himself a conservatism. But these quotes show contempt for represetative government and the will of the people to decide who and how they shall be govererned. His support for an unelected class of black robed oligarchs who can run roughshod over popular will (and thus short circuit the function of a representative republic) shows that he is no different than the elitist liberals whom he claims to oppose. His support for the views of Alexander Hamilton--a wannabe framer whose views were largely (and thankfully left out of the Consitution) betrays his contempt for the public at large.
1 posted on 07/15/2005 6:40:09 AM PDT by epson8750
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To: epson8750

Yeah, I only read his columns here and there now. They're not worth much anymore. He also wants to keep the judicial filibuster because the Republicans might need it someday. Lets just keep empty court seats and full dockets so we might have partisan advantage in the future. Ridiculous reasoning.


2 posted on 07/15/2005 6:47:42 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: epson8750
The whole function of the Supreme Court is to make anti-majoritarian decisions. If its purpose were to enforce majority rule, it would have no use beyond that of Congress.

Example: when the Supreme Court ruled that Jehovah's Witnesses need not recite the Pledge of Allegiance because it violated their religious beliefs, the Court was enforcing the First Amendment. And, it was overriding the laws duly passed in West Virginia and most other states that the Pledge was mandatory for all students.

As someone who has practiced law in the Supreme Court for a third of a century, I could offer you hundreds of examples where the Supreme Court upheld the plain language of the Constitution, under assault by majority votes in state legislatures or Congress.

A true conservative in the United States seeks to defend and respect the Constitution, including the fact that all should obey it -- Presidents, Congressmen, Justices alike. Your quarrel is not with judicial review in general. It is with judicial review when the Justices abandon the Constitution and start reading their personal views into the Constitution.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "The Fry Cook Rule for the Supreme Court"

3 posted on 07/15/2005 7:17:26 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Will President Bush appoint a Justice who obeys the Constitution? I give 65-35 odds on yes.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"The whole function of the Supreme Court is to make anti-majoritarian decisions. If its purpose were to enforce majority rule, it would have no use beyond that of Congress."

No. It's purpose (orginally outlined in the Constitution) is to be the ultimate arbiter of civil and criminal cases appealed from state and lower federal courts; not to be the ultimate legislative trump card. Marbury v. Madison was basically a coup d'etat (of sorts) by J. Marshall. Sadly, only Andy Jackson had the guts to stand up to Marshall.


4 posted on 07/15/2005 7:21:01 AM PDT by epson8750
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To: Congressman Billybob

"Example: when the Supreme Court ruled that Jehovah's Witnesses need not recite the Pledge of Allegiance because it violated their religious beliefs, the Court was enforcing the First Amendment. And, it was overriding the laws duly passed in West Virginia and most other states that the Pledge was mandatory for all students"

That was logical overreaching by the USSCT. Requiring someone to say the Pledge (and this was back before "under God" was in the Pledge!) cannot--in the real world--be considered "establishment" of religion.


5 posted on 07/15/2005 7:24:11 AM PDT by epson8750
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To: epson8750
You obviously have not read the case of Barnett v. West Virginia. It has nothing to do with "establishment of religion." It is part of the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses that they will pledge or affirm only to God and to no other.

Therefore, being compelled to say the Pledge of Allegiance violated their freedom to practice their own religion. The Supreme Court, correctly the second time it took this case, so ruled.

If you learned a little more about what the Supreme Court has done, you would be better equipped to see the critical difference between its doing its job, and its exceeding its authority. It is just as important that the Court not be afraid to carry out its constitutional duties, as it is that the Court not exceed those duties.

John / Billybob

6 posted on 07/15/2005 7:38:06 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Will President Bush appoint a Justice who obeys the Constitution? I give 65-35 odds on yes.)
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To: epson8750
Read Caton v. Commonwealth, decided prior to 1787 by Judge George Wythe, in Virginia. The legislature of Virginia sought to grant a pardon to a man convicted of trading with the enemy (Britain). Judge Wythe ruled that the pardon power belonged solely to the Executive, not the Legislature, and that the legislature's attempt to grant a pardon was unconstitutional.

Why should you care about a 220-year old Virginia case? Judge Wythe was also the first professor of law in the United States. Among his students were Henry, Jefferson, Madison, Marshall, and Mason. In short, the Framers in Philadelphia were well aware of this case and this man.

There were also five other state cases, prior to 1787, holding that the highest court in a state was empowered and obliged to strike down any law from its legislature, if that law violated the plain terms of its constitution. The latest of these was decided across the river from Philadelphia, in New Jersey. And, the Attorney General of NJ was one of its delegates to the Convention.

In short, it is a common myth, but factually false, that the fourth Chief Justice, John Marshall, "invented" the theory of judicial review in Marbury v. Madison. This belief is widespread, but is factually false.

John / Billybob

7 posted on 07/15/2005 7:47:05 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Will President Bush appoint a Justice who obeys the Constitution? I give 65-35 odds on yes.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I used to have a problem with Marbury but not anymore.

But consider this.

Marshall held a law unconstitutional because it authorized the court to order the executive to deliver the judicial commissions but that the court did not have the authority to issue such an order - because political rival President Jefferson would have ignored the mandamus.

But today the court can order the President to do just about anything, aince the court is the "final authority" and the President is just a rubber stamp and the police and military are just functionaries of the court where presidents and governors are just human resource directors and physical plant maintainers and janitors for the judges who are the real line executives.

In that case, isn't the logic of Marbury moot, if not the effect? Today, laws can be held unconstitutional just because the court wants to. And the executive does whatever the court says because he has to. And there is no separation of powers, which was the basis of Marbury.


8 posted on 07/15/2005 8:34:25 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I think the current view that the court protects the rights of minorities is a little off. The constitution limited the power of governmnet and did not favor minorities.


9 posted on 07/15/2005 8:47:09 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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I think he should nominate Dr. Coburn!

Coburn Lone Opponent On Spending Bill.
10 posted on 07/15/2005 8:48:09 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: epson8750

This came out a week ago.

And it was published then.

Twice.


11 posted on 07/15/2005 7:28:09 PM PDT by dangus
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