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A little birdie told me what the Rove thing is all about.

Posted on 07/14/2005 1:50:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

Don’t ask me, because you know I won’t tell you how I came across this information.

Here is the scoop.

This is all about the Supreme Court.

With the knowledge that Rove was Matthew Cooper’s background source regarding the Plame incident, no matter the fact that no laws were broken, the Democrats leaped upon the matter as a way for Democrats and the MSM to possibly prevent Bush from changing the makeup of the Supreme Court. Under normal circumstances, Democrats cannot stop Bush from reshaping the Supreme Court, and that has Democrats terrified. They cannot sustain a Filibuster without Frist invoking the Nuclear Option on them, so they only have one last option, which is now underway.

The Democrats must demonize Bush to the degree that they can then begin their long-awaited impeachment articles, with the MSM in tow. If Congress can introduce articles of impeachment against Bush, then the MSM will demand that Bush postpone any nominations to the Supreme Court until the matter is decided. It is the only hope they have left of preventing a Conservative Supreme Court from taking hold, and if they do not accomplish this, the flow of money into Democratic coffers will stop instantaneously.

Next week, you will begin to hear Democrats suggesting that if Bush does not fire Karl Rove, then he is guilty of “Obstruction of Justice” and “Lying to the American People” in order to protect a friend. The Media will play along dutifully, because it was there idea in the first place.

Forget about Judith Miller.

Because the Special Prosecutor has asked the White House not to discuss the matter, no one will be able to inform Miller or the NY Times on how Miller should lie to save herself. Without that knowledge, the Times will not let her testify at all. They are paying her to be silent, and it is they who are actually guilty of ‘Obstruction of Justice’ Miller knows who the leaker is, and you all know who I believe that person to be.

What you all are about to see, is the most coordinated, vicious attack ever in the history of Politics against this administration, because those involved have everything at stake. Without control of the Supreme Court, the Liberal agenda is dead for the next 30-40 years. All of their Environmental nonsense, Abortion, Private Property, Affirmative Action and Civil Rights issues go right down the tubes.

The Bush Administration is aware of what is to come, and might be able to prevent it with a little ‘inside baseball’ but the looniest on the left will attempt this no matter what the outcome.

Expect editorials next week, arguing whether or not it is fair for a president who “stole the first election” and won the second election by the “smallest margin of any incumbent President” who is “embroiled in a National Security Scandal” to be deciding on the makeup of the Supreme Court. At the same time, Liberal Senators will begin to suggest that Conformation hearings on anyone Bush selects should be postponed until the investigations are over. Unfortunately for our side, they have an alley in one Arlen Specter. They will be leaning heavily on him to go along with delayed hearings. Specter is already angry with Bush over the Stem-cell research issue.

Will it work? No. Why? Because Bush understands the law, and also understands (with Rove’s help) that no matter how loud and long the Democrats scream, they and the MSM really cant do anything about the Supreme Court, but can effect public opinion. Bush, by telling Republicans to shut up about his choice, has set precedent for when he tells (by his Supreme Court selections) the Democrats the same thing. If he ignores both sides, he can just choose who he wants, and that is exactly what he will do.

So get ready for an ugly, ugly Summer and Fall. Don’t expect to hear much from Bush on Rove, or the Courts after he makes his selections. Republicans in Congress will also be silent (except Specter and Hagel) and will not risk their own re-elections and legacies to side with Democrats this time round.

So there it is, take it or leave it. I wont answer any questions about how or where I got the information, so don’t ask me.

-PD


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KEYWORDS: cialeak; josephwilson; judithmiller; karlrove; liars; liberals; losers; medialeakers; pukindogsdaman; valerieplame
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To: iconoclast

1) The overly-cocky Rove committed the unpardonable, mortal (Bush) sin of LEAKING!

2) Bush clearly stated (unless you allow Clinton like qualifications) that the leaker would be CANNED!

You are utterly wrong on both statements. Try reading the facts and then forming an opinion.


581 posted on 07/14/2005 10:33:09 PM PDT by 7mmMag@LeftCoast
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To: valkyry

Thank for for the info and the link! :-)


583 posted on 07/14/2005 10:44:02 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: AliVeritas

LOL! I know what you mean...

I got that feeling once when I innocently clicked on a link here to DU, and once I got out of there, I felt the need to take a shower...


584 posted on 07/15/2005 3:10:35 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Pukin Dog; Buckhead
Pukin Dog/Buckhead in '08.

585 posted on 07/15/2005 3:48:42 AM PDT by Watery Tart (There are 10 kinds of people in the world--those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: Watery Tart
Lord save us. . . .

;-)

But then again. . .it would keep Pukin Dog off the streets and our women folk and sheep would be safe again.
586 posted on 07/15/2005 3:55:48 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: PFC
He could have saved a lot of people a lot of trouble if he had been upfront months ago.

Are you aware that Rove signed a waiver back in Dec 2003? Are you aware of the fact that he has testified in front of th GJ at least 3 times already? Rove has cooperated. Also, Rove has been ordered by the SP not to publicly discuss this. Do you want him to be held in contempt merely to satisfy your curiosity? A reporter went to jail because she refuses to reveal her source, how is that Rove's fault? And Rove was NOT Miller's source. Since the revelation came out this morning that Novak knew before he talked to Rove, it only reinforces my belief that Miller was the one peddling the story for Wilson/Plame to set up Rove.

587 posted on 07/15/2005 5:40:19 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ladyinred

The anti-Bush GOP are as rabid and closed minded as the left


588 posted on 07/15/2005 5:46:16 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Dems_R_Losers
President Bush has already fired the true leaker, the one who gave Valierie Plame's name and identity to Bob Novak.

His name is George Tenet.

Mr. Tenet left with great ceremony and honors.

Bush administration record is still perfect, five years and zero mistakes. (/sarc) ;-)

589 posted on 07/15/2005 5:49:52 AM PDT by iconoclast (If you only read ONE book this year, make sure it's Colonel David Hunt's !!!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
OK, I'll try one more time.

The supreme court is like a baseball team in the respect that there are NINE members.

One of the ballplayers is the Captain (think Chief Justice).

Now, if four players quit the team (and one of those happens to be the captain) then you're left with four replacements to be made. During the process of bringing the team up to full strength (NINE) the Manager (President) names one of his NINE players the new "captain". The "captain" may be one of the original nine or one of the FOUR new players. Either way, there's no way to slip a tenth player onto the field.

Please stay off the appropriations committee, Congressman! ;-)

590 posted on 07/15/2005 6:11:08 AM PDT by iconoclast (If you only read ONE book this year, make sure it's Colonel David Hunt's !!!)
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To: ladyinred
Let me guess, you aren't a fan of the President?

If I ever again "read the lips" of a Bush, may God strike me dead! ;-)

591 posted on 07/15/2005 6:14:03 AM PDT by iconoclast (If you only read ONE book this year, make sure it's Colonel David Hunt's !!!)
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To: Shortstop7
You sound like BigSkyFreeper to me...

Perhaps I am. What is a BigSkyFreeper?

592 posted on 07/15/2005 6:23:30 AM PDT by iconoclast (If you only read ONE book this year, make sure it's Colonel David Hunt's !!!)
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To: Pukin Dog

How and where did you get this information again?


593 posted on 07/15/2005 6:27:31 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Pukin Dog

If Congress can introduce articles of impeachment against Bush, then the MSM will demand that Bush postpone any nominations to the Supreme Court

The big flaw with this scheme, We control Congress not the rats so in would never happen.


594 posted on 07/15/2005 6:31:44 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline snapped the last time the MSM blew smoke up my ass. Now its gone forever.)
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To: iconoclast
What are you, dumb and blind?

For the third time, the Chief Justice is separately appointed and separately confirmed, from the position of Associate Justice. So, exactly as I said, IF Scalia is named to replace Rehnquist, Bush will make five appointments.

One of those will be Scalia moving to Chief Justice, which does not, of course, change the number of Justices on the Court. Got it now? If not, I give up.

John / Billybob
595 posted on 07/15/2005 6:49:29 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Will President Bush appoint a Justice who obeys the Constitution? I give 65-35 odds on yes.)
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To: iconoclast
Tenet resgnation surprises Washington

The first word of Tenet's resignation came from President Bush a few hours earlier when he talked to reporters after meeting with Australian Prime Minister John Howard.
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The announcement seemed to take much of Washington by surprise. House Speaker Dennis Hastert and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi both said they had no advance notice of Tenet's departure.
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Bush made the Tenet announcement before boarding Marine One for a flight to Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland. He is on his way to Europe, where he will attend ceremonies marking the 60th anniversary of the D-Day invasion in World War II. (Bush leaves for European trip)

A White House official said Bush would have liked Tenet to stay on, and denied that his departure was "worked out beforehand" or "engineered."

"Tenet told Bush he wanted to leave for personal reasons, and once he said that, Bush said he respected that," the official said.

But former CIA Director Stansfield Turner said the timing of Tenet's resignation -- just five months before the presidential election -- cast doubt on the explanation that it was a personal decision.

"I think he's being pushed out or made a scapegoat," said Turner, who led the CIA during the Carter administration. "That is, that the president feels he's got to have somebody to blame, and he's doing it indirectly by asking Tenet to leave. ... I don't think he would pull the plug on President Bush in the middle of an election cycle without having been asked by the president to do that."

Any questions?

596 posted on 07/15/2005 8:09:29 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (If the WMD intelligence was so bad, why does Valerie Plame still have a job?)
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To: nopardons

Sounds like your mom was indeed a wonderful woman! Hopefully I can pass on my sudden interests in politics to my son but I'm not counting on it. These days his interests are movies, friends, video games, and girls....he's thirteen. LOL

Perhaps in a few years it will rub off on him.


597 posted on 07/15/2005 8:42:48 AM PDT by Arpege92 ("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
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To: Congressman Billybob
What are you, dumb and blind?

Neither. Are you a hairsplitting technicality nut?

The "appointment" of the Chief Justice is dependent on Rehnquist's resignation (and is about as significant as the proverbial bucket of warm spit). The fact there would be an "appointment" is in no way related to Scalia or any other jurist.

So just what WAS your big whoopee point with this?:
Nope. The Bush Administration will make a total of four appointments to the Supreme Court. Five, if Scalia moves up to Chief Justice.:

What if the Senate refused to confirm Scalia as Chief Justice? Would the President (according to your water muddying logic) then "get to make a sixth "appointment"?

598 posted on 07/15/2005 8:53:47 AM PDT by iconoclast (If you only read ONE book this year, make sure it's Colonel David Hunt's !!!)
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To: iconoclast
An "appointment" as I used it, includes confirmation. Therefore, only one completed appointment can occur per slot available.

You may consider it of no consequence that an Associate Justice being moved up to Chief Justice requires a separate confirmation. However, it was that second review which unearthed some unseemly stuff about Justice Abe Fortas which kept him from being confirmed as Chief, and ultimately caused him to resign from the Court.

The Chief Justice not only has certain supervisory powers over the whole Court, he also has such powers over all of the lower federal courts. You may consider those powers and influences "as significant as the proverbial bucket of warm spit," but as a lifelong student of the process, I can assure you this is another example of your not knowing what you are talking about.

The administration of justice in the United States is partly dependent on who serves as Chief Justice of the United States, which is the official title of that person per the Constitution. A good and able Chief can accomplish much that is valuable. A poor and unable Chief can allow things to go to hell in a handcart.

John / Billybob

599 posted on 07/15/2005 9:12:30 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Will President Bush appoint a Justice who obeys the Constitution? I give 65-35 odds on yes.)
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To: 185JHP

Ah so you see the helicopters over your house a lot? LOL Go away now, it's time for your meds.


600 posted on 07/15/2005 9:28:36 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Gabon?)
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