20 Nuclear Suitcase Bombs inside the USA

Michael Savage July 13th Radio Program ^ | July 14, 2005 | Sweetjustusnow

[Haru Hara Haruko]

(DON'T even suggest that a practical-sized device (non-suitcase sized) is going to be dragged across the desert into the US!)

Ahh, another "real men count yield in whole kilotons" man. A 60lbs. nuke will get you 0.25KT. Enough to ruin your whole day.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

Apparently, someone in this thread believes just that. But it ain't me.

[Southack]

"A 60lbs. nuke will get you 0.25KT. Enough to ruin your whole day."

No, not 60 pounds.

If you don't have enough fissionable material for a supercritical mass, then you get no "boom." A mere "critical mass" won't explode (just radiate). So unlike most things in life, nuclear physics can't just scale down atomic explosions by using less fisionable material...below a certain point (although smaller explosions can be made with larger amounts of fissionable material, if desired).

Uranium is a very fissionable isotope.  Unlike Plutonium, Uranium can be used in gun-type atomic bombs.  The American Richard Feynman was responsible for correctly calculating the amount of uranium needed to achieve critical mass (his enemy opponent in Germany, Heisenberg, got this math wrong - destroying Nazi efforts to build their Bomb). Critical mass is the amount of uranium needed to start a *self-sustaining* chain reaction. However, if you have a certain amount more than the required mass to start the reaction, a supercritical mass, the reaction would take place faster and grow exponentially (i.e. "explode"). Feynman calculated about 50 kilograms (110 lb.) of pure Uranium would be required. However, the Uranium obtained was seldom pure, so a larger amount would be needed. Robert Oppenheimer said that the required supercritical mass would be about 100 kilograms (220 lb.) of available, highly processed Uranium.

Name: Little Boy Type: Uranium gun-type fission Weight: 9,700lb (4400 kg) Length: 10 ft, 6 in (3.2m) Diameter: 29 in (0.737m) Explosive Yield: 15,000 tons of TNT

[Sioux-san]

I don't know if he is right or wrong. There are nearly 300 million people in this country, so to think that 5000 Islamist enemies of the USA are in my country wouldn't surprise me. Count the jihadists on our college campuses, especially in California, New York and Arizona, and in heartland states as well. Count the thousands who visit their relatives in Detroit (1/2 million Muslims live there) and Newark. Divide 5000 Islamists by the 48 continental states, and that is 100 per state. PUt those 5000 in the 50 largest cities in our country - 100 per city. Not very hard to imagine at all. We are fools to believe that infiltration has not occurred during the past 10 years or so. We are at war, and too many of my fellow citizens refuse to believe it.

[RipSawyer]

How come you know so much about my doctor?

[Sioux-san]

That's great - thanks for giving me a chuckle.

[Sioux-san]

You said: "you can't get two of them to agree on anything."


Thank heavens for that!

[ßuddaßudd]

Does anyone have any numbers on how many Iraqis we may have granted asylum to during and after Gulf War One? How about how many Iranians we may have granted political asylum in the past 20 years?

[TSchmereL]

At least 4 out of 5 doctors agree about everything.

[_Jim]

Ahh, another "real men count yield in whole kilotons" man. A 60lbs. nuke will get you 0.25KT. Enough to ruin your whole day.

WE JUST went through the exercise of showing THE IMPOSIBILITY of a workable 'suitcase nuke' that was over 120 days old; I guess some people DIDN'T get that message. That would include you ...

[_Jim]

So, Russia is now one of our staunchest allies?

WHO said anything about 'staunchest ally'; I could take a few weeks in every major city in the world (given I could speak the language as properly selected 'case agents' should be able to do) and deduce which local 'firms' were working 'off book' so to speak. This isn't rocket science, it's simply a matter of some earnest detective work ...

[HolgerDansk]

Thank You for proving my point.

[_Jim]

Not only was it imagined, it was planned in detail

At best, they scored only 3 out of four objectives, worst case I say they scored only 2 out of 4 since they muffed their primary objective when plane #3 opted for the Pentagon. I also say they scored below par in contrast to what the same number of *us* could do (on the basis of determination, ingenuity and competance).

[TMSuchman]

If memory serves me right, there was a story several years ago that under the old Soviet Regieme had placed several "brief case" nukes around our country to be set off when the invasion came. these were the size of "pot belly" stoves and need 4 people to set off. They will fit into the bed of a full sized pick up truck. They were placed in areas if stragic imporantce like dams,nuke plants, large chemical plants, oil production faclities ect... We need to look into these areas on our own to find them. There are lots of deserted area near these faclities folks, and WE need to check them out for our selves. Ourselves & our famlies & Country need us to do this!

[_Jim]

... certain areas are 'scanned' from street level ...

Seldom, if ever.

Yeah, you're probebly right; like when law enforcement was using IR equipment to look for marijuana grow operations by scanning entire neighborhoods for the right 'signs'. They probabaly haven't even thought of doing this ...

/sarcasm

[Matchett-PI]

"Heh, great way to sell a book!"

Play on what motivates people ---- greed and (or) fear --- and you'll make a killing.

[_Jim]

If memory serves me right, there was a story several years ago that under the old Soviet Regieme had placed several "brief case" nukes around our country to be set off when the invasion came. these were the size of "pot belly" stoves and ...

We need to look ...

I wonder what the last 'service date' is on that package; sometime in the LAST century maybe?

Depending on what rotted/rusted/decomposed you might also have trouble keeping film from fogging if you spend much time dawdling over your 'find' ...

[RightWhale]

WE need to check them out for our selves.

There are four, well, five now, such areas near this town, but they are so spread out that one of these pot-belly stoves would not actually effectively take one out. If it is Terrorism, though, it could be done and the casualties might run into the thousands. I have looked around and have found no such devices although there is an old Linotype sitting out in an open field; got to wonder about that.

[Haru Hara Haruko]

At best, they scored only 3 out of four objectives

Even less, I would say. There were credible reports of "dress rehearsals" that did not overlap with the 19 known hijackers, and plausible reports of other hijack teams on 9/11 that did not get off the ground or backed out of their missions.

Which brings up another point: Why 9/11? Why not 8/17? 6/3? The answer is, of course, that we can't know the logistics behind these attacks. Similarly, saying a nuke would already have been used if they had one is meaningless.

[atlanta67]

Tom Tancredo will destroy the credibility of his very real issue of immigration and border cvontrol if he meets with this kook