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Bias against Southerners misses the mark
Pasco Times ^ | July 11, 2005 | RICHARD COX

Posted on 07/14/2005 6:10:21 AM PDT by robowombat

Bias against Southerners misses the mark By RICHARD COX Published July 11, 2005

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Does prejudice exist in Pasco County, an area with a very diverse population and seemingly very progressive?

I am certain that African-Americans, Hispanics and people from other countries, the poor and homeless, as well as members of certain religious faiths, experience treatment different from the mainstream populace. However, I am a member of a minority who has experienced attitudes and reactions from many individuals who assume that I am intellectually and socially challenged.

A very large percentage of the population of New Port Richey in particular is from the Northeast. I personally like the outspokenness, mince-no-words attitude, the ability to criticize as well as accept criticism without being offended, that seems to represent the culture in which Northerners grew up.

My family members seem to have the disadvantage of being born and living most of our lives in the South, in our case, Tennessee. I grew up in Knoxville, a city that many people seem to associate only with the fanatical behavior of our college football fans, and my wife is from a small city near Chattanooga.

There still seems to be a stereotype that some people associate with Tennesseans. When those individuals heard the distinct accent of my wife, my stepdaughter, and myself, it seemed to conjure up that redneck image one might associate with the humor of Jeff Foxworthy and other Southern comedians. That image is of a culture of ignorant hillbillies (certainly due to inbreeding!), barefoot, living in a shack with no indoor plumbing (but certainly an outhouse in back), having a dog living under the front porch, and owning an overgrown lawn populated with broken-down, dilapidated automobiles. And, yes, we all chew tobacco and sit on the front porch swing playing the banjo. Everyone also flies a Confederate flag and reminisces about the War Between the States.

I first noticed this attitude when my stepdaughter, an honor student, came home from middle school several days in tears because several other students harassed her daily, calling her an ignorant redneck and hillbilly among other derogatory terms. My wife and I have experienced the sudden change in facial expressions from many when they hear our accent. They seem to associate our accent with ignorance, and speak in simpler terms so that we can understand what they are saying. Telephone conversations often produce the same reaction.

I beg to differ. Tennessee is the home of several major universities, four major metropolitan areas with all the drug and gang problems associated with other large cities, and the most visited national park in the United States. Oak Ridge, in the Knoxville area, probably has as high a percentage of residents with doctorate degrees as any city in the United States. Tennessee has a musical heritage equal to none, and it is not exclusively country or bluegrass genres. Many nationally prominent politicians are from my home state, including three former presidents.

Tennessee has produced many famous musicians, actors, scientists and other intellectual and talented natives.

Well, to set the story straight, rural areas of most states have their own populace and dwellings that approach this stereotype.

My wife and I grew up in your average suburban neighborhoods, we both graduated from major universities and had successful professional careers, and, to risk seeming boastful, are probably as intelligent and knowledgeable, if not more so, than the average American. Believe it or not, East Tennessee, the section of the state we are from, fervently supported the Union during the Civil War.

I have noticed in the Pasco Times notices of meetings for various groups from areas of the Northeast and from other countries. Perhaps Southerners in our area should form a similar group. With apologies to an African-American group with a similar title, we could call our group the NAASF, the National Association for the Advancement of Southern Folks, Pasco County Branch. I hope there are enough local Southern residents available to attract to our organization.

--Richard Cox, a retired middle school science teacher and department head, lives in New Port Richey


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: accent; bigotry; dixie; greatname; pasco; tennessee; thesouth
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To: robowombat
[[There still seems to be a stereotype that some people associate with Tennesseans. When those individuals heard the distinct accent of my wife, my stepdaughter, and myself, it seemed to conjure up that redneck image one might associate with the humor of Jeff Foxworthy and other Southern comedians.]

You are absolutely right. These same people that think it's perfectly OK to refer to southerners as "hillbillies" and "rednecks" and make fun of they way that southerners talk would NEVER dream of making fun of a black person for the way that they talk and they would NEVER dream of calling them anything but the politically correct title of "African American". Slow speech and slang words by white southerners are laughed at, ridiculed, and called stupid yet when a black person says "let me axe you a question", "where do da bafroom be", or "i hafa go take a tess", it is accepted as the norm, nobody laughs or makes fun of them and it is even pawned off as some type of phony english known as "ebonics", instead of the "lazy english" that it really is, which is my opinion sound ten times as worse than any white southerner. In other words, it is still perfectly acceptable to make fun of white southerners but all other racial groups are exempt. This is the hypocrisy of modern day liberalism.
1,321 posted on 08/25/2005 10:15:37 AM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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To: stand watie
"once more (SIGH!), he's NEVER debated me on ANY subject."

Whenever I have attempted to ask you question on any other subject, not related to your single issue spins on the Civil War, the only response is your typical 'damnyankee' ranting, which is very familiar to everyone.

Have you actually taken the time to review the incessant, standardized verbal bacteria you unload on all those not in total agreement with you deliriously demanding & screaming for so-called 'Dixie Republic' in 2005, plus the violent methods you feel are required?

1,322 posted on 08/25/2005 7:03:57 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola; All
yet another STUPID, fact-FREE, piece of nonsense from FR's chief FOOL.

free dixie,sw

1,323 posted on 08/26/2005 7:51:43 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
You are on record again responding in identical fashion, (see below)

"yet another STUPID, fact-FREE, piece of nonsense from FR's chief FOOL. free dixie,sw"

Incredible - like a defective toy parrot, instead of addressing the issues more of the same. You forgot the "damnyankee" part.

If those on FR did not know better they be under the impression this was a Bud & Lou shtick routine LOL


1,324 posted on 08/26/2005 12:20:38 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola
what would you have me say to a creature who appears to be a FOOL, a BIGOT & IGNORANT of the simplest facts/concepts about the WBTS???

i've NEVER seen you post a SINGLE time ANYTHING that seemed to require educational preparation, facts, knowledge and/or logic.

ALL you do is parrot the LEFTIST/hate-FILLED/REVISIONIST drivel & knowing lies out of the most extreme fringe of northeastern academia AND make "fact-free" ad hominum attacks on everyone, who disagrees with that drivel & bilge.

show me that you know something of IMPORTANCE about the WBTS, drop parroting the REVISIONIST lies & stop the personal attacks & i'll try having a conversation with you.

free dixie,sw

1,325 posted on 08/26/2005 2:12:22 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
"what would you have me say to a creature who appears to be a FOOL, a BIGOT & IGNORANT of the simplest facts/concepts about the WBTS???"

That's a perfect description of yourself.

"i've NEVER seen you post a SINGLE time ANYTHING that seemed to require educational preparation, facts, knowledge and/or logic."

Due to the fact you are a well known, single issue screamer, apparently incapable of addressing anything other than your deliriously obsessed re-fighting of the Civil War, for the losing side no less, I would therefore not expect you to even look for another subject, never mind posting normal comments, nor threads of timely news worthy interest.

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You were saying - again: "ALL you do is parrot the LEFTIST/hate-FILLED/REVISIONIST drivel & knowing lies out of the most extreme fringe of northeastern academia AND make "fact-free" ad hominum attacks on everyone, who disagrees with that drivel & bilge"....bla, bla, bla ....bla

Would you be so kind as to post your last three threads, preferably posted in the last year?

1,326 posted on 08/26/2005 8:55:40 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: stand watie
By the way, how many "LEFTIST//REVISIONIST drivel & knowing lies" did you find in post #1,318 or just those few linked threads in #1,326, out of many I have posted on FR?

Maybe being honest for a change would be refreshing.

1,327 posted on 08/26/2005 9:11:09 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola
what would you know about honest?????

as i've said before, everything you've ever posted on the WBTS threads exposes you as a anti-southern BIGOT, a MORON & a FOOL of the first rank.

free dixie,sw

1,328 posted on 08/27/2005 8:29:23 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
"as i've said before, everything you've ever posted on the WBTS threads exposes you as a anti-southern BIGOT, a MORON & a FOOL of the first rank."

There is no getting through to you.

1,329 posted on 08/27/2005 1:08:51 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: bevlar

Don't lose the accent,It'll keep'um honest and guessing.


1,330 posted on 08/27/2005 1:22:43 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Brilliant

"Here in Fla., everyone's from the North anyway."

Ditto, here in TX, We have a border problem from all sides.


1,331 posted on 08/27/2005 1:26:20 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: wolfcreek
rotflmRao!

free dixie,sw

1,332 posted on 08/28/2005 10:06:23 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: M. Espinola
well, since there is only AIR between your ears i can't communicate with you on a cerebral level.

btw, when are you going to repost your RACIST post # 645???

free dixie,sw

1,333 posted on 08/28/2005 10:08:11 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
I posted a diversified group of linked news threads and you continue responding only with more of your tipical irrational gibberish. What a pathetic 'lost cause'.
1,334 posted on 08/28/2005 6:13:32 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola
NOTHING you have posted on WBTS threads is worth reading, as the author is a BIGOT, a MORON & a FOOL!

face it, "Mr SPIN", NOBODY here (including the members of the DY coven) believes that you have a functioning brain. all we ALL do is RIDICULE you. (and RIDICULE is ALL you deserve.)

free dixie,sw

1,335 posted on 08/29/2005 8:20:32 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie; M. Espinola; Modernman
Stand Watie's Lies (an incomplete list):

1) Slavery would have ended in the South by 1875, had the South been allowed to secede in peace.

2) There was a practical, efficient cotton harvesting machine available in 1860, even though none saw use until ca. 1940.

3) Dr. Stephen Lubar is the Curator of the Agricultural Collection at the Smithsonian.

4) The above-mentioned Dr. Lubar agrees with the first two points listed.

5) The state of Texas issued letters of marque and reprisal, and Texas privateers captured a German U-Boat which is now on display in a Galveston Park.

6) There were no innocent victims of Quantrill's raid on Lawrence. Every last victim had it coming.

7) Slave owners were an insignificant factor in the secessionist leadership, and slavery had nothing to do with secession.

8) Abraham Lincoln wrote numerous letters revealing deeply racist sentiments against Indians, which Watie has been allowed to see, but which are otherwise completely unknown to scholars.

9) No POW was ever mistreated by the CSA.

I could go on...

1,336 posted on 08/29/2005 9:38:08 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Heyworth; stand watie; M. Espinola

Please also note that sw is wholly unwilling, or unable, to respond to the facts in post #1317.

So, as usual, he resorts to name-calling.

Very telling.


1,337 posted on 08/29/2005 9:48:09 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: Modernman
inasmuch as i didn't even bother to read #1317 (as it is a post from a person whom i regard as a FOOL/MORON/RACIST), i haven't responded.

perhaps i will get around to reading it, when i have more time.

IF he posted any FACTS, rather than his usual ignorant, HATE-FILLED,BLATHER & REVISIONIST LIES, i'll be surprised.

identifying a FOOL as a FOOL (or in this case a BIGOT & presumed RACIST as a RACIST/BIGOT.) is NOT "name-calling".

free dixie,sw

1,338 posted on 08/29/2005 10:01:05 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
inasmuch as i didn't even bother to read #1317 (as it is a post from a person whom i regard as a FOOL/MORON/RACIST), i haven't responded.

Doubtful. You read it. You read all of M. Espinola's posts. You just found yourself in a position where you couldn't spin your way away from the facts, so you decided to slink away.

Now you're name-calling again. You are so sadly predictable.

Avoidance of the facts, followed by name-calling. Sounds like a liberal to me.

1,339 posted on 08/29/2005 10:43:06 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: Modernman
I noticed that. When truth is presented these neo-confeds have nada to say about nada.
1,340 posted on 08/29/2005 5:11:01 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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