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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 7
Various News Sources | 7/14/05

Posted on 07/13/2005 11:15:06 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba. AP photo


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; deepakkalpoe; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satishkalpoe; vandersloot
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To: cajungirl
One friend said her eyes looked funny, were heavy and half closed. That tipped me off.

That was Dash over at SM.

201 posted on 07/14/2005 10:25:43 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: kcat
Can you imagine seeing a 5'2" girl being hit with a closed fist by a 6'5" man and you not beating the crap out of the guy?

It depends. When I was in college (the early 70s), I was Natalee's size. Went to a party one night where the local hickey team had played a Canadian team. A Canadian hockey player came up to me and started hitting me on the back--hard. Being young and naive then, and with a date who wanted to be accepted by the hockey team, I didn't say anything and neither did anyone else. Finally, a professor's wife came up and told him to stop beating me! Here's the thing. It depends on how one sees a situation. No one else present thought anything untoward was happening. One woman thought I was being beaten and I was too shy to speak up for myself. Had I disappeared that night, fellow party-goer memories of that event would have been all over the board. Conclusion: sounds like something may have heppened, but it's hard to know what. It depends on the perceptions of the viewer.

202 posted on 07/14/2005 10:25:53 AM PDT by twigs
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To: twigs
Conclusion: sounds like something may have heppened, but it's hard to know what. It depends on the perceptions of the viewer.

Agreed. Same thing with her eyes. Remember that couple from Michigan that saw her. The woman said she saw Natalee snorkeling that earlier that day and that she couldn't believe she was stil awake. Maybe she was just tired and not drugged.

203 posted on 07/14/2005 10:31:12 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: GarySpFc

I think aruban LE, for whatever reason, have mixed the stories together. Why are they even giving this info out? They have their reasons. The whole system seems pretty convoluted to me.


204 posted on 07/14/2005 10:32:19 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: monkeywrench

That is what I think, he hit her in the car. She bled. Satish and Deepak had to wash the blood out that night. They saw it, nobody else.


205 posted on 07/14/2005 10:33:34 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: monkeywrench

Did you look over that site? It's about voices that come out of a coffeepot...?!

Laugh - it's really pretty bizarre..


206 posted on 07/14/2005 10:36:09 AM PDT by pamlet
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; countryconservative; maggief; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
From Sm:

On Fox now, an announcer said the news can come at any time now before or after 2pm EST.

207 posted on 07/14/2005 10:39:58 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Dark Skies
It is hard to believe that Joran hit Nat or any girl in public and lived to see another day.....

I agree, this is very hard to believe. It is coming out far too late to be credible.

208 posted on 07/14/2005 10:40:53 AM PDT by Big Jake
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To: TexKat; WestCoastGal

Wasn't sure if my buddy, WCG, was on your ping list. So just to be on the safe side, WCG, ya might get a double ping!


209 posted on 07/14/2005 10:41:28 AM PDT by KylaStarr
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To: pamlet

Yup. I find bizarre interesting. Never know what you'll find.


210 posted on 07/14/2005 10:41:42 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: KylaStarr

:)


211 posted on 07/14/2005 10:42:12 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: stopem
But than I have to ask, what has keeping it in the spotlight accomplished for the family or accomplished for finding Natalee?

We can't know yet. That's the point.

One of my favorite sayings is 'you never know unless you ask'.

Thus, she may remain an unsolved mystery forever, or the exposure may help someone in the future.

212 posted on 07/14/2005 10:42:16 AM PDT by easonc52
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To: cajungirl

I think the brothers are the witnesses, too, and it makes me wonder what else they've told. I also think their mother knows everything.


213 posted on 07/14/2005 10:42:55 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Big Jake

I know this guy who is always making a fist and sort of whopping me on the arm,,it is affectionate, not the least intimidating and is just his habit. It sort of bothers me, like he really wants to slug me, but is just his way. I wonder if that is what Joran did. If he threatened or hit her in any way in that C and C hell would have broken loose and he would not have gotten in ten feet of her.

He hit her in the car is my thought and I am sticking with it. One of the Kalpoes talked in my opinion.


214 posted on 07/14/2005 10:43:43 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: twigs
OK..suppose she did have it with her? Suppose she left it in her purse while she was having her attack(or being attacked) and couldn't get to it?

OR suppose she didn't want to take it with her?

IF the med Beth was speaking of, was indeed her inhaler, then there was at least another one left in her room. She either had another one with her, or she didn't?

sw

215 posted on 07/14/2005 10:45:57 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: clee1

The Twitty's should hire Mark Fuehrman to investigate the case. He'd do it, and he'd finger her killers and possibly find N's remains, or at least where they were dumped at sea.


216 posted on 07/14/2005 10:46:14 AM PDT by hershey
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To: cajungirl

Word is that Joran punched Natalee in the face. That doesn't sound like horseplay.


217 posted on 07/14/2005 10:48:02 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: hershey

They have detectives. furman may be too high profile on that island. But a good idea.


218 posted on 07/14/2005 10:48:18 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: spectre

Actually, that's a possibility. My daughter has three inhalers, all of which work a little differently. And she rarely needs to use them. So Natalee could have left one behind and carried one with her. Beth probably knows, although I don't always know how my daughter manages her inhalers.


219 posted on 07/14/2005 10:55:23 AM PDT by twigs
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To: upstatenyrepublican
Thank you for discussing this. I check FR every day to see if there is any news in the case. It is the one place where people who care bring information. I keep thinking that the dogs need to go to the Van der Sloot's place. That father wasn't sweating profusely for no reason while Gretta interviewed him!

I believe awareness helps us be safe.

My wife is Filipino, and I haven't visited the Phillipines yet. One reason is that she let me know that there are some possible terrorist training sites between Manila and her home (I hope to go there in the future (her home - lol)).

Anyway, if there's danger to our kids in a foreign land, I'm glad to see it publicized, and to see that others have care and concern.

220 posted on 07/14/2005 10:57:24 AM PDT by easonc52
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