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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 7
Various News Sources | 7/14/05

Posted on 07/13/2005 11:15:06 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba. AP photo


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; deepakkalpoe; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satishkalpoe; vandersloot
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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5

Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 6

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Natalee's body found... (false report)

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Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody

1 posted on 07/13/2005 11:15:07 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat

Did they find that missing little black girl in Washington D.C. yet?


2 posted on 07/13/2005 11:21:48 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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3 posted on 07/13/2005 11:23:35 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Graybeard58

I don't know Graybeard58.


4 posted on 07/13/2005 11:24:28 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Natalee was taken, raped (probably repeatedly), murdered, and her body was dumped at sea - after this long, it will NEVER be found. Due to Aruba (Dutch) law, without a body the killer cannot be convicted. Those responsible WILL one day have to face Ultimate Justice and Judgement, though.

It is a tragedy for her family and friends, and my prayers are with them. However, aren't there more important things for the average US citizen to be concerned with?

Eminent Domain abuse, SCOTUS appointments, and thwarting terrorism are far more important that one young lady WE WILL NEVER FIND!

Give it a rest, already.


5 posted on 07/13/2005 11:39:50 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1

Actually most places it is more difficult to discover who killed someone and gain a conviction without a body. There is at least one example in the Netherlands of a murder conviction without a body, but heck no reason to have facts on one of these threads.

BTW, remind me, exactly home many days after the murder of Lacy Peterson was Scott Peterson walking around free? They have jailed a suspect with little evidence in this case. They seem ahead of the CA authorities, but do they have the right guy?


6 posted on 07/13/2005 11:49:13 PM PDT by JLS
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It is a tragedy for her family and friends, and my prayers are with them. However, aren't there more important things for the average US citizen to be concerned with?

That may be true, but if it were my kid, I would be grateful for people to be discussing it, so that maybe things would get improved in the future (out of sight, out of mind, doesn't get things done).

7 posted on 07/13/2005 11:49:22 PM PDT by easonc52
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You must be interested, you stuck your head in. Next time just scrool on by. We are not interested in you, thats for sure.


8 posted on 07/13/2005 11:51:41 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: JLS

IIRC, the case of conviction w/o a body occurred because the perp confessed. I heard about the case you speak of on FoxNews a week or so ago in an interview with a Dutch lawyer. The suspect in Natalee's case certainly is not going to confess.

I don't recall how long it was exactly the Peterson was walking around after killing Lacy.. but 62 days seems to ring a bell. However, cold, land-locked SF Bay is entirely different from warm, tropical Aruba. A body will degrade much quicker in 80 degree water than it will in 60 degree water; the ocean off Aruba gets really deep really quick; and there is much more marine life in tropical waters than there is in SF Bay - meaning that the remains have most likely been eaten.

As to the jailed suspect, the law there allows them to keep a person in jail almost indefinitely if there is a flight risk, while the investigation is ongoing.


9 posted on 07/13/2005 11:58:16 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Eminent Domain abuse, SCOTUS appointments, and thwarting terrorism are far more important that one young lady WE WILL NEVER FIND! Give it a rest, already.

I know you're just being disruptive, but why shouldn't we care about just one young lady? Surely you don't mean that eminent domain issues are more important then the life of someone? or the fact that a foreign government is helping cover up where the body of one of our citizen's is located? Has a SCOTUS appointment been made? (I can't believe I would miss that) so really, all we're doing is armchair quarterbacking on that subject. And I'm sure I could make a point about terrorism taking human life--and uh---isn't that what we're talking about on a smaller scale? But if you think there are other things more important, then by all means, go post on those threads!

10 posted on 07/14/2005 12:01:50 AM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: TexKat

I stuck my head in to see who was weeping and wailing today, and to see who would be calling for the suspects head without evidence.

As I expected, I find a sheeple tied up with this unimportant matter - buying into the press accounts of this non-story so they don't have to concern themselves with more important issues.

The moral of THIS story: Parents, don't let your pretty young girls leave the country on a senior trip - it just might be their last trip anywhere.


11 posted on 07/14/2005 12:04:45 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1

This is my last response to you which you may consider a non-response.


12 posted on 07/14/2005 12:08:37 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Thanks, TexKat for caring about a friend of mine. I appreciate everything you and several others have done to try to help find Natalee and to try and figure out what happened to her.

Ignore the disruptors. I know for a fact that her family appreciates everyone's concern.
13 posted on 07/14/2005 12:12:03 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Thank you kcvl. I pray that it is over soon for Natalee's family and love ones.


14 posted on 07/14/2005 12:13:27 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: clee1
"The moral of THIS story: Parents, don't let your pretty young girls leave the country on a senior trip - it just might be their last trip anywhere."

And when you leave the country, you leave your rights behind.

15 posted on 07/14/2005 12:15:08 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: justche
but why shouldn't we care about just one young lady?
16 posted on 07/14/2005 12:15:31 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: justche

Here's the rest of my post. I don't know why it didn't show up in #16:

Let's care about the other 857,000 reported missing every year too.

Let's focus for a while on the poor child missing from St. Louis, Chicago, Atlanta, Boston etc. Nah, that wouldn't boost the ratings or sell advertizing would it?

Natalle will be the focus until the next pretty white girl comes up missing.


17 posted on 07/14/2005 12:18:17 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: kcvl
...everything you and several others have done to try to help find Natalee and to try and figure out what happened to her.

And just what have they done???

Weep and gnash teeth in FR threads? Come on!

18 posted on 07/14/2005 12:18:43 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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"clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)"

Says it all!


19 posted on 07/14/2005 12:21:01 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou

My tag line says one of the more important things in life.

It will be there until Matt comes home.


20 posted on 07/14/2005 12:22:35 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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