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City Could Be Liable with Cheyenne Frontier Days Rodeo, Says Lawyer
Cheyenne Wyoming Tribune-Eagle ^ | 07-13-05 | Milner, Kelly

Posted on 07/13/2005 4:22:03 AM PDT by Theodore R.

City could be liable with CFD - lawyer A civil rights trial lawyer said the absence of women on the Cheyenne Frontier Days General Committee could be proof in court of discrimination.

By Kelly Milner rep7@wyomingnews.com Published in the Wyoming Tribune-Eagle

CHEYENNE - In a court of law, the absence of a woman on the Cheyenne Frontier Days General Committee could be used as evidence of sexual discrimination.

That's according to Trish Bangert, a Denver University law professor and trial lawyer who specializes in civil rights.

Bangert spoke to the City Council at the end of Monday's meeting about the possibility the city could be liable with CFD should someone sue the volunteer organization for sexual discrimination.

Bangert came at the request of City Councilman Pete Laybourn who has introduced a resolution saying CFD is violating its lease with the city by discriminating against women.

The lease between the city and CFD contains an anti-discrimination clause.

A woman has never been part of the CFD General Committee. One woman is on the CFD Board of Directors.

"This is a volunteer organization with 2,000 volunteers, many of them women," Bangert said. "Yet no woman has gotten to the place where she's on the General Committee."

Bangert's legal analysis states that she understands one woman who expressed a desire to serve on the General Committee was refused.

Tucker Fagan, head of CFD's Board of Directors, said last week that women have been offered positions on the General Committee but did not accept.

Bangert said she wasn't there to attack or condemn anyone, but to remind them about the state and federal laws that prohibit discrimination and the possibility of liability issues facing the city in the matter.

City Councilman Tom Segrave said, "I totally disagree with some of the comments in your factual background. I don't think you're right at all."

Mayor Jack Spiker and City Councilman Patrick Collins questioned if Bangert had any evidence of discrimination, saying there was a difference between the absence of women and refusing to allow them to be on the committee.

Bangert said in the civil rights business, the fact that a woman has never been on the committee infers that a woman hasn't been allowed.

"I could take that fact and use it as evidence in court that there has been discrimination," she said. "Statistics alone can be evidence."

While CFD and the city could respond with evidence showing women have refused to be part of the General Committee, that would have to be shown in court

"You're still there in front of the jury and that's my concern," she said.

Bangert offered suggestions in her analysis that could remedy the situation.

"I'm not here to say oh, bad Cheyenne Frontier Days, because I think it's wonderful," Bangert said. "All I'm trying to do is tell you that there may be some problems in the future, problems that can be avoided fairly easily."

Bangert's suggestions include: A written policy that CFD will not discriminate, designating someone to monitor compliance with that policy, creation of a grievance procedure and regular reports to the city about grievances that are made and its compliance with the policy.

City Councilman Don Pierson said Bangert's testimony should take place next week at the Committee of the Whole meeting, where Laybourn's resolution will be discussed.

Spiker said, "It is rather unfair that we're hearing one side of the story. They can't be here to defend themselves tonight.

But CFD General Committee Chairman Ken McCann was in the audience. McCann said Monday they continue to deny the sexual discrimination charge and look forward to the discussion at next week's Committee of the Whole.

Bangert said she and Laybourn have mutual friends. Bangert said she was not charging Laybourn or anyone else for her time.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: cheyenne; civilrights; discrimination; petelaybourn; rodeo; trishbangert; wy
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Merely the absence of women from a public board is now considered evidence of sexual discrimination.
1 posted on 07/13/2005 4:22:04 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Bangert's legal analysis states that she understands one woman who expressed a desire to serve on the General Committee was refused.

OK. A show of hands please...

Anybody who thinks the woman "refused" is not behind this effort by Bangert, please raise your hand...

Anybody?

< crickets>

Anybody at all?

IMHO, the CFD rejected this woman because she is a litigious jerk, and she is now proving their point.

2 posted on 07/13/2005 4:26:44 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Theodore R.
"I'm not here to say oh, bad Cheyenne Frontier Days, because I think it's wonderful," Bangert said. "All I'm trying to do is tell you that there may be some problems in the future, problems that can be avoided fairly easily."

Sort of like the old mafia protection racket line. "Nice business you got here. Hate to see anththing happen to it."

3 posted on 07/13/2005 4:28:11 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Theodore R.
The mere mention of asking a lawyer is evidence of deep and incurable stupidity.
4 posted on 07/13/2005 4:28:43 AM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Theodore R.

I guess the absence of women bucking bronco riders (at least, I haven't seen any) is also evidence of discrimination.

Apparently, this lawyer doesn't even consider that the fact that women might not be interested. Of course, that isn't a possibility at all.

I also don't see women driving trash trucks. Is that also sexual discrimination?


5 posted on 07/13/2005 4:29:40 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Theodore R.
Tucker Fagan, head of CFD's Board of Directors, said last week that women have been offered positions on the General Committee but did not accept.

Probably because she was too busy raising a family.

6 posted on 07/13/2005 4:37:50 AM PDT by rabidralph (Stop surveilling--start arresting!)
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To: Theodore R.
In a court of law, the absence of a woman on the Cheyenne Frontier Days General Committee could be used as evidence of sexual discrimination.

I guess by that "reasoning" all the women's organizations without men on their boards may be liable of the same.
7 posted on 07/13/2005 4:38:09 AM PDT by Lord Basil (Hate isn't a family value; it's a liberal one.)
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To: Theodore R.
So then what does the mere absence of women from my bed imfer?

Oh, boy, I don't what to be in trouble with the City Council. Any ladies out there want to help me out???

TS

If you don't know that I'm joking, read the tagline ... although that could imply that I'm sleeping alone.

8 posted on 07/13/2005 4:39:51 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Theodore R.
So, put a female monkey on the board and call it square.

Not intending to hurt any young lady's feelings here. Pointing out just how ludicrous this is.

9 posted on 07/13/2005 4:44:14 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: Theodore R.
Best they get started strappin' some o'them young ladies down on some bulls, and romping them around the ring.

Wouldn't take no for an answer either!

10 posted on 07/13/2005 4:50:39 AM PDT by muawiyah (/sarcasm and invective)
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To: Theodore R.
That's according to Trish Bangert, a Denver University law professor and trial lawyer who specializes in civil rights.

You have the right to remain silent Trish

11 posted on 07/13/2005 4:52:43 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Theodore R.

Trish should be run out of town on a rail.


12 posted on 07/13/2005 5:08:57 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: exDemMom
I guess the absence of women bucking bronco riders ...

Women bucking(!) bronco riders... I'll be nice, but WHOA, what possibilities ;-P

13 posted on 07/13/2005 5:32:26 AM PDT by MortMan (Mostly Harmless)
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To: MortMan

Read post number 8 -- we could solve two problems at once!!


14 posted on 07/13/2005 5:37:33 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Theodore R.

Civil Rights Extortion, plain and simple.


15 posted on 07/13/2005 5:40:29 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Theodore R.
You know, I hope the NFL gets sued, after all, there don't seem to be any female offensive or defensive linemen...

The only thing that could possibly explain that, given the number of those players in the NFL, is sexual discrimination!

Where's Johnny Cochran?... Oh yeah, he's dead. Well, I'm sure that there is some other lawyer who will take this case!

Mark

16 posted on 07/13/2005 5:46:02 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: Theodore R.
I think I belonged to the last all male Toastmasters Club before we finally let women in in during the mid 80's. Of course, not many women wanted to come at 7am on Sat.

I miss the male comradery we had. I learned a lot from the older men in the club.

I club is ok now but not as good as it was.
17 posted on 07/13/2005 6:07:27 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Theodore R.
Here is the telling quote where the lawyer admits her efforts are not for equality but nothing more than a shake down: Bangert said in the civil rights business...

It is nice to finally hear one admit that civil rights are a business.

18 posted on 07/13/2005 6:13:30 AM PDT by flying Elvis
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To: 6SJ7

Bingo.


19 posted on 07/13/2005 6:14:57 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: muawiyah
Best they get started strappin' some o'them young ladies down on some bulls, and romping them around the ring.

I grew up in Wyoming. I've seen girls ride, rope and buck. If a girl wants to do it, there's nothing stopping her.

20 posted on 07/13/2005 9:56:06 AM PDT by Marie (Stop childhood obesity. Give them Marlboros, not milkshakes.)
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