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Karen Armstrong's Fantasies About Islamic Terror
FrongPageMag.com ^ | July 12, 2005 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 07/12/2005 1:00:04 PM PDT by sergey1973

In the wake of the 7/7 London bombings many politicians and pundits have raced to renounce the phrase “Islamic terrorism.” A London Anglican priest named Paul Hawkins said in a sermon: “We can name the people who did these things as criminals or terrorists. We must not name them as Muslims.” It may seem odd to deny to the likely perpetrators of the bombings the name that they themselves prize above all others, and it is certainly a disservice to any genuine Muslim reformers who might be trying to identify and root out the causes of violence from within Islam, but such are the politically correct dogmas that prevail in most contemporary public discourse. And no one is better versed in those dogmas, or more relentless in her pursuit of any dissenters from them (with a fury that the most ruthless Inquisitor would envy), than Karen Armstrong.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: christianity; islam; islamicterror; islamicterrorism; karenarmstrong; koran; london; londonattack; londonbombing; muhammad; quran; terrorapologists; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 07/12/2005 1:00:07 PM PDT by sergey1973
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Knees-are-a-jerkin over there. The usual suspects have buried their heads in the sand...again.

The only way to defeat your enemy is to understand who they are. You cannot do that without actually UNDERSTANDING WHO THEY ARE.

Why is that so difficult?


2 posted on 07/12/2005 1:02:42 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Register to vote as a Dem! You get to vote in their primaries and it screws up their polling data!)
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What a dork.


3 posted on 07/12/2005 1:03:33 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Because for Politically Correct crowd, I presume, anything that does not fit their theories is wrong.


4 posted on 07/12/2005 1:05:16 PM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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To: sergey1973

Is Karen Armstrong a Moslem?


5 posted on 07/12/2005 1:06:08 PM PDT by Grand Old Partisan
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You are right, of course. Saying "Islamic militants are trying to terrorize London" would mean that all their moral-relatavistic inclusiveness is proven to be bunk. Its so annoying sometimes, isn't it?


6 posted on 07/12/2005 1:07:22 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Register to vote as a Dem! You get to vote in their primaries and it screws up their polling data!)
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To: Grand Old Partisan

She is a "The Guardian"'s idea of a religion editor.

One who despises all religions equally.


7 posted on 07/12/2005 1:07:59 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Grand Old Partisan

No, I think she's merely "a useful idiot">


8 posted on 07/12/2005 1:08:38 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Grand Old Partisan

No, I believe she's a former Catholic nun who became Islamic apologists. She wrote a number of books, including "History of God". Generally she's a self-hating former Christian who is eager to denounce her own roots while uncritically elevating other civilizations.


9 posted on 07/12/2005 1:08:39 PM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Sure it would be devastating for radical moral relativists to admit that not all cultures are good.


10 posted on 07/12/2005 1:10:22 PM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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I found a quote from Armstrong on the web. This is from an interview:

Someone was saying to me recently that nearly all our former enemies end up on the White House lawn. Nelson Mandela, who's now regarded as a saint, was a couple of decades ago touted by the American administration as a communist and a terrorist. Arafat has appeared on that lawn. Now, I'm not going so far to say, goodness me, that Bin Laden will be there -- of course not....

First of all, Mandela and Arafat are not even considered decent people, let alone saints, by a majority of Americans. And secondly, her argument falls apart as soon as bin Laden's name comes up.

What a maroon.

11 posted on 07/12/2005 1:11:56 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: sergey1973

Worse yet would be that they may actually have to say that some are bad.


12 posted on 07/12/2005 1:12:51 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Register to vote as a Dem! You get to vote in their primaries and it screws up their polling data!)
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To: Personal Responsibility

We can call the people who are bombing England to cinders Nazis, but we must not call them Germans.

That makes much more sense.

As we know, the Germans are the world's best toy makers.


13 posted on 07/12/2005 1:15:31 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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I thought Nelson Mandela did a very good job as President of South Africa. He was much more moderate than could have been expected from someone who had just spent 25 years in prison, on a small island.


14 posted on 07/12/2005 1:15:53 PM PDT by Grand Old Partisan
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15 posted on 07/12/2005 1:21:41 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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That's about how I would describe her. Her book Islam was pretty good. It gave a quick overview of the history of Islam. Yes, you could tell that she was sympathetic, but it was still well-written and an intelligent Freeper could recognize and overlook her weaknesses to get the history. And it was fairly short, so it was a quick way to get the history.
16 posted on 07/12/2005 1:22:17 PM PDT by twigs
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Edward Said, the recently deceased Palestinian leftwing loon, said Karen Armstrong "seems to be a very industrious if not especially knowledgeable author." (If you care, you can read his review at http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/crisis/said.htm).

Armstrong's audience is limited to self-hating Christians, of which there would seem to be more than a few (especially in Europe).


17 posted on 07/12/2005 1:27:48 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: Grand Old Partisan

That is true. BUT Mandela WAS a terrorist. He thought terrorism was a legitimate tool, and he was so, so wrong about that. He did have the blood of innocents on his hands, just as John Brown, another terrorist, did.
He has to be given credit for his restraint when in power, but terrorism can NEVER be excused.


18 posted on 07/12/2005 1:29:31 PM PDT by Lessingham
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To: Personal Responsibility
and it is certainly a disservice to any genuine Muslim reformers who might be trying to identify and root out the causes of violence from within Islam,

Just damn! Read your freakin' books!!

19 posted on 07/12/2005 1:35:09 PM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: massgopguy

Thats a great analogy. Truly excellent.


20 posted on 07/12/2005 1:35:32 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Register to vote as a Dem! You get to vote in their primaries and it screws up their polling data!)
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