Posted on 07/12/2005 7:31:32 AM PDT by ppaul
Top 50 Most Influential Churches
The 2005 survey was sent to 2,000 church leaders with the goal of ranking the nation’s fastest growing churches and churches with more than 2,000 weekend attendance. The 127 churches nominated for the 50 Most Influential Churches survey were located in 32 states and represented 27 affiliation groups and/or denominations. The term affiliation is used to include networks of unaffiliated, independent churches.
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Friend - note I said 'infant' Baptism. Baptists and most Protestants do not accept infant Baptism as an acceptance/admission of faith.
I know, but since I was responding to someone who had pinged you, I pinged you also.
Could have read from the Bible!
It is you is only using human reason and rejecting Scripture.
If these men were a help to Moses why then did Moses cry to God in Numbers 11:14 that the burden of the people was to much?
Jethro's great advice did not work!
God gave the Holy Spirit to 70 other men to ease Moses's burden.
Moreover, Jethro did not even stay with the Jewish people but left.
The critera for leadership in God's work is being filled with the Holy Spirit, not natural ability (as Jethro advocated).
If a Church is not growing it may be because it is telling the truth,
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine, for the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers having itching ears, and they shall turn away their ears from the truth and shall be turned unto fables (2Tim.4:2-4)
Guess you have never hear piper ;) (no 19). He will pull no punches.
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re an urgent call to pray for our borders TONIGHT.
And where is infant baptism in the bible? The Bible does not record a single infant being baptized. In the Bible, only believers who had placed their faith in Christ were baptized--as a public testimony of their faith and identification with Him (Acts 2:38; Romans 6:3-4).
Amen to your post.
Blue, they do a wonderful work for The Lord at Willow Creek.
Some starchy, narrow, rigid, parochial, . . . pharisees stuck on their own little constructions on reality instead of listening to and following Holy Spirit are quite quick to throw rocks at any successful thing THEY didn't start.
One size doesn't fit all and Willow Creek ought not be applied without thorough going guidance from Holy Spirit--as would be true of anything.
Where in the bible is infant baptism addressed?
Did you hear him about the time he started to go to the grocery for a quick errand and he felt The Lord tell him he had to put on a tie and coat because of who Joel was in public and that therefore he represented God at all times.
I don't like to quibble at folks about what they feel God tells them. And, I have no reason to doubt Joel on that point--and I believe he's doing a great work for God.
I AM glad God doesn't tell me to dress like that every time I go out. Shoot, I feel thankful I'm encouraged to dress differently even for church. LOL.
Great reply!
Thanks.
Personally I look at how im getting fed with the word on sunday rather than needing to be in with the pastor..
You clearly don't understand the prophetic nature of the seven churches of Revelation, otherwise, you wouldn't just write off everything as "not of God". But the fault really isn't yours. The fault is with those who teach you, assuming that their pharisaical "christianity" is the only true way. They're wrong. JESUS is the way....
Joel Osteen is doing a great work of God. Rick Warren is doing a great work of God. If you don't believe that, ask God yourself. You'll get an answer (as James said, if any of you lack wisdom, let them ask of God, and He will give liberally). Maybe you're afraid to do that, because it would prove John Macarthur to be wrong (again)
I asked God already, so I know :)
Thank you for your reply.
But you still have provided no proof from scripture that you are correct.
Yes, Moses had problems leading a stiff-necked people, even with help. But that does not mean he was wrong to appoint good men to share the load. Nor does it say anywhere in scriptue that he never consulted God. Or maybe it does.
But you have not been able to show me where.
I can't believe the nutcase in Houston spent $95 million on the old Rockets arena to be his new church.
I just found out I live 5 blocks from the largest church in the world. Whoopie.
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