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THE WRONG TARGET - Hiring illegal immigrants as day laborers is widespread.
HoustonChronicle ^

Posted on 07/11/2005 10:58:05 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

uly 10, 2005, 9:22PM

THE WRONG TARGET

Plan by Minutemen to videotape illegal immigrants seeking work in Houston misses the point.

If the Minutemen, the group that wants to halt illegal immigration at the border, intends to videotape undocumented workers as they negotiate on the streets of Houston with prospective employers, they had better come armed with crates of cassettes. As anyone who drives North Shepherd or dozens of other streetside job fairs knows, the practice of hiring illegal immigrants as day laborers is widespread, conducted in broad daylight and tolerated by local law enforcement agencies and federal immigration agents.

Exactly what the amateur filmmakers hope to accomplish, beyond getting news coverage, is difficult to fathom. In their well-publicized actions along the U.S.-Mexican border, the Minutemen had the support of local landowners angry over disruptive groups of immigrants invading their property. Their reception here likely will be very different. The cheap labor provided by undocumented workers in Houston and other cities is a fact of life, one embraced by most business interests and an issue few politicians care to tackle.

With an estimated population of 400,000 noncitizens illegally residing in Houston and 11 million nationwide, a coordinated effort by authorities to deny them the ability to earn money to feed themselves and their families would provoke a social and health care crisis not seen since the Depression. Uncontrolled immigration cannot be solved on the local or state level.

The place where the Minutemen should focus their efforts is Washington, D.C., where Congress has yet to approve immigration reform legislation. A bill co-sponsored by Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., includes a guest worker program similar to one proposed by President Bush last year. It would allow noncitizens who wish to work in America to apply for U.S. visas after undergoing security checks and medical exams. A database would then match the applicants with prospective employers.

For illegals already here, permanent residency could be earned by demonstrating gainful employment, undergoing security screening, paying a fee and meeting language and civics requirements. "This bill does not provide a free pass to anyone," Kennedy argues.

These are farsighted measures of a kind that are needed to solve the dilemma of illegal immigration in America. The Minutemen and the country would be better served if they focused their videocams on lawmakers rather than hapless job seekers and demanded swift action on meaningful immigration reform.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona; US: Arkansas; US: California; US: Colorado; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; daylaborers; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrant; immigrantlist; undergroundeconomy
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" . .the practice of hiring illegal immigrants as day laborers is widespread, conducted in broad daylight and tolerated by local law enforcement agencies and federal immigration agents."

1 posted on 07/11/2005 10:58:05 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
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Deja Vu - Summer 1929 A.D.

(Depression designed to merge North America into one nation out of forced economic urgency.)

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With an estimated population of 400,000 noncitizens illegally residing in Houston and 11 million nationwide, a coordinated effort by authorities to deny them the ability to earn money to feed themselves and their families would provoke a social and health care crisis not seen since the Depression.

2 posted on 07/11/2005 11:01:49 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Maybe arresting those who hire illegals will make a dent in it.


3 posted on 07/11/2005 11:04:53 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Happy2BMe

Of course, any bill supported by John McCain and that fat mick Kennedy MUST be rejected out of hand.


4 posted on 07/11/2005 11:05:27 AM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: Happy2BMe
"With an estimated population of 400,000 noncitizens illegally residing in Houston and 11 million nationwide, a coordinated effort by authorities to deny them the ability to earn money to feed themselves and their families would provoke a social and health care crisis not seen since the Depression"

The Houston economy is booming. Texas has been rated the number one state for businesses to relocate to and for new businesses to start up.

Houston has one of the finest Medical centers in the world and new hospitals are being built faster than Walgreen pharmacies.

Crime is down, educational scores are up and everybody is getting along just fine, thank you.

5 posted on 07/11/2005 11:10:06 AM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is everything in a democracy. Losing is for people unclear on the concept.)
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To: sheik yerbouty
I have said that all along. Arrest them, if you make the fines high enough, it will no longer be profitable to hire the illegals. If there are no jobs here for them they will have no reason to be here.
6 posted on 07/11/2005 11:12:40 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

And if it turns out we NEED them to do jobs, we can bump up the number of legal immigrant slots, or do a targeted worker program. We don't know if there is a worker shortage because illegals are undocumented. We don't know what impact there is to the economy. How many legals are out of work because the work is being done by illegals?


7 posted on 07/11/2005 11:16:40 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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8 posted on 07/11/2005 11:18:13 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: bayourod
Houston has one of the finest Medical centers in the world and new hospitals are being built faster than Walgreen pharmacies

But not as fast as CVS pharmacies ... they've got new stores going up like McDonalds.

9 posted on 07/11/2005 11:18:48 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Does it hurt when they shear your wool off?)
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To: Happy2BMe

tolerated by local law enforcement agencies and federal immigration agents."<<<

Voters..Call your City Manager, Call your PD Chief., remind them just WHO they are working for.


10 posted on 07/11/2005 11:19:24 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Illegals should be Caught and Deported; not Released and Supported!)
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To: Happy2BMe

I can vouch for that here in Westchester County, New York, just outside of NYC. There is a strong demand for day laborers, primarily from landscapers and contractors, but also individuals who need a strong back for some home improvement project.

Local city & town officials either turn a blind eye, assuming that those waiting for work are not creating a nuisance, or have set aside areas with some amenities like restrooms and shelter from bad weather.

Some churches or agencies try to drum up interest in ESL classes and try to question them to make sure they are not being abused by those hiring them. There have been cases where they worked, but were not paid, or were injured on the job and were afraid to seek treatment.

I agree, if you want to stop the problem, law enforcement is going to have to go after those hiring undocumented workers. I just don't think when push comes to shove, we have the will to arrest citizens who have illegal cleaning ladies and gardeners. And many of the landscaping and contracting businesses are small "mom & pop" type businesses.


11 posted on 07/11/2005 11:19:34 AM PDT by YankeeGirl (Certa bonum certamen)
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To: sheik yerbouty

HI. Hiring undocumented workers has been a proven way to break unions. Also, is the low price of lettuce at Safeway stores really such a bad thing?


12 posted on 07/11/2005 11:20:31 AM PDT by benben
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Agreed, they say they do the work that Americans do not want/won't do. That is bull. The employers are trying to save money by paying them less and not having to provide them benefits. It all stems from the businesses trying to have extra profits.


13 posted on 07/11/2005 11:22:18 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: benben

Illegal is illegal.


14 posted on 07/11/2005 11:23:03 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


15 posted on 07/11/2005 11:23:27 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: benben
Also, is the low price of lettuce at Safeway stores really such a bad thing?

Right on up there with all the diseases comin' across the border! /heavy sarcasm

Besides, you're VERY VERY wrong on this issue....Americans, LEGAL Americans WILL do the job if given the chance.

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16 posted on 07/11/2005 11:24:23 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: Happy2BMe
The cheap labor provided by undocumented workers in Houston and other cities is a fact of life, one embraced by most business interests

Ain't what this is all about?

It will be a fact of life until enough voters create enough political pressure to make it otherwise.

17 posted on 07/11/2005 11:25:03 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: benben

Some unions are now looking to include undocumented workers.


18 posted on 07/11/2005 11:25:20 AM PDT by tropical
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To: tx_eggman
Those too. There are two new hospitals within ten miles of me and two others made major additions. The medical center in downtown Houston is adding another one million square feet this year. Anyone who says that illegals are putting the hospitals out of business is sadly misinformed.
19 posted on 07/11/2005 11:26:00 AM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is everything in a democracy. Losing is for people unclear on the concept.)
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To: benben
Also, is the low price of lettuce at Safeway stores really such a bad thing?

First of all, it ain't so low lately; second, labor is not the major component of price; third, that "cheap" head of lettuce has lots of hidden costs such as government bennies and public education for illegals; and fourth, what part of ILLEGAL do you not understand?

20 posted on 07/11/2005 11:27:08 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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