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Why has U.S. been spared?
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 08 July 2005 | Peter A. Brown

Posted on 07/08/2005 11:01:56 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln

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To: oh8eleven

If I were a Canadian you might have a point.


101 posted on 07/08/2005 12:26:03 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: wtc911
On another thread you implied that you believe that the WOT is being prolonged by us for corporate purposes.

Not just "corporate purposes," mind you -- but any number of purposes (public and private sectors alike). Do you think the law enforcement industry in this country would ever allow the U.S. to "win" the "war on drugs?"

I think that you can take the girl out of Canada but it is clear that you can't take Canada out of the girl.

I ain't a Canadian, and I ain't a girl. ;-)

102 posted on 07/08/2005 12:28:35 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Alberta's Child
I don't think the notion of a "deal" between the U.S. and Osama bin laden is too far-fetched. Remember that his primary complaint against the U.S. was that our military presence on the "sacred soil" of the Arabian Peninsula amounted to some kind of outrageous sacrilege against Islam. Fast forward from 9/11 to July of 2005 . . . in less than four years, we have a situation where our military forces are being removed from Saudi Arabia, Osama bin Laden has never been found. I'm not suggesting that this is exactly what has transpired, BTW -- I just presented as a very realistic possibility

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If you have any proof of your "notion", feel free to present it.

103 posted on 07/08/2005 12:29:25 PM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: Lando Lincoln
To ask "Why have we been spared?" implies that the fight is over.

It isn't. So we haven't.

104 posted on 07/08/2005 12:29:44 PM PDT by airborne
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To: Alberta's Child
Canadian to the core, must suck. Too bad for you.

MacArthur got money in 1942 so Bush cut a deal with OBL, something you call a "very realistic possibility". I ask again, where do people like you come from? I ask now, what the heck are you doing here?

105 posted on 07/08/2005 12:31:38 PM PDT by wtc911 (Rocky Sullivan died a coward.)
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To: Alberta's Child
I ain't a Canadian, and I ain't a girl. ;-)

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Had me fooled on both counts.

106 posted on 07/08/2005 12:33:05 PM PDT by wtc911 (Rocky Sullivan died a coward.)
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To: MarkL
In his memoirs, General Giap admitted that the North Vietnamese Army could have never beaten the US and ARVN forces on the battlefield. He simply had to hold out until the American left and war protestors forced political change, and for the US to abandon the war.

After the war General Giap also pointed out that the North Vietnamese were planning to fight a war against the U.S. that would last for 35 years. The eyes of U.S. officials popped out of their heads when they heard that one -- they knew that the short attention span of the American public (even back then) would never allow for that kind of ordeal.

107 posted on 07/08/2005 12:35:44 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: trisham

(s)Michael Moore told him so and you can prove the negative wrong.(/s)


108 posted on 07/08/2005 12:37:37 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Chappaquiddick Crawdad
Read the word "may"? That is a problem for many on these threads, they can't read English.

Now if you are saying that GWB doesn't have the 'nads to do what many of us are calling for him to do in a situation of that premise, then just say so, if you aren't, then explain.
109 posted on 07/08/2005 12:39:00 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Alberta's Child

My neighbor's cousin's friend had an uncle who used to tinker in his garage all the time. One day he invented an engine that ran on chicken fat and toe nail clipppings. A few months later he was never seen again...


110 posted on 07/08/2005 12:39:01 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: null and void
If you were paying attention, you might have noticed the smoke was jet black, not the paler steam diluted color that you get when water actually makes it to a fire. Interesting coincidence isn't it? A common laborer shows up a day or two before a major terrorist event, and the emergency equipment malfunctions right on cue?

That's not exactly correct. If you were paying attention, you might have noticed that the smoke from the first tower actually had turned to the pale steam-diluted color you mentioned. The smoke turned black again when the second tower was hit -- which indicates to me that the water pressure simply wasn't sufficient to support the sprinkler systems in BOTH buildings at the same time.

111 posted on 07/08/2005 12:39:28 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Because they are quietly invading US politics instead.


112 posted on 07/08/2005 12:40:23 PM PDT by MarMema
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The jihadists themselves, have no real hope in winning a fighting war against the West. For sure, those who are rabidly islamist are being used to do some damage. The realistic goals are to achieve with limited engagements to change public opinion and hence policy in the target countries.

As has been mentioned before, the North Vietnamese used this strategy well with the help of the US leftists. Our enemies have learned that lesson well. Some of our own citizens have not.

Al Qaeda and its assorted gangs can just wait until a Democrat gets back in the White House, and it will be back to appeasement as usual.


113 posted on 07/08/2005 12:40:23 PM PDT by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: Alberta's Child

That's not what I recall. I could be wrong, though.


114 posted on 07/08/2005 12:40:53 PM PDT by null and void (You'll learn more on FR by accident, than other places by design)
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To: Alberta's Child
If I were a Canadian you might have a point.
I have a point, regardless of where you were born. Your thinking blather is clearly unAmerican.
115 posted on 07/08/2005 12:43:31 PM PDT by oh8eleven
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To: trisham
If you have any proof of your "notion", feel free to present it.

1. Osama bin Laden masterminds the 9/11 attacks against the U.S., on the grounds that our military presence in Saudi Arabia is a religious outrage against Islam.

2. Within a year of 9/11, the U.S. has a plan in place to remove our military forces from Saudi Arabia.

3. Osama bin Laden makes his infamous prime-time television appearance during the 2004 presidential campaign -- in a setting that appears to be a far cry from a dark cave along the Afghanistan/Pakistan border, mind you.

116 posted on 07/08/2005 12:44:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Brilliant
 "Possibly because the Islamicists have realized that attacking the US was counterproductive to their cause."

        MOAB


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117 posted on 07/08/2005 12:45:43 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (Visit the Jefferson Republic for a conservative news portal.)
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To: umgud

Bush has secretly informed OBL that he will ship every liberal in Congress to Gitmo if another attack occurs, effectively killing AQ and the insurgency.


118 posted on 07/08/2005 12:46:32 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: null and void

Col. Bui Tin's remarks are that the Tet 68 combined efforts were considered an absolute failure. They were looking for a general uprising to take hold. They lost all ground that they had gained.

However, when Walter Cronkite and MSM were playing up that Tet 68 was a sign that 'the war is lost', they decided to wait it out. When the anti-war movement took off with the help of Fonda and Kerry, well, they new it was in the bag.

Public opinion, manipulated by the MSM and leftists, impacted policy. We walked away. Then came the bloodbath in SE Asia that the left said would not happen.


119 posted on 07/08/2005 12:46:50 PM PDT by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: Alberta's Child

That's it?


120 posted on 07/08/2005 12:46:55 PM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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