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Fluoride
jim_trent | 7-8-05 | jim_trent

Posted on 07/08/2005 6:59:28 AM PDT by jim_trent

I picked up a study at the State College recently about Fluoride. It seems that the “optimum” dose of it is considered to be 1mg per liter of water. The State (Nebraska) has set limits between 0.7 to 1.5 mg/l to “reduce tooth decay”. The local water suppliers are charged with meeting and staying within those limits. Prolonged drinking of water with more than 2.0mg/l can cause discoloration of the teeth. Much higher amounts are poisonous.

What I found interesting is that the groundwater was tested throughout the state to see what the naturally occurring fluoride was before anything was added. Thirty-six (36) out of forty-nine (49) counties have naturally occurring Fluoride of 0.7mg/l or above. No fluoride is added to the water in these counties. One county had 2.6mg/l naturally occurring (the highest found in the State). No word on whether or not fluoride is removed in that county.

What I found interesting is the high percentage of counties that already had sufficiently high amounts of fluoride naturally occurring. I have not seen that fact brought up in other discussions I have read here about fluoride.

If it is as bad as some say, how can the people survive who live in the areas that already have that much fluoride naturally occurring. I wonder what the percentage of land in the entire US already has sufficient naturally occurring fluoride so that none is added? Is it as high as here or is this an anomaly? How is fluoride different from chloride, iodine, and any other halogens that are used in purifying water?


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To: Xenophobic Alien

You are right. That is some troll post.


21 posted on 07/08/2005 8:02:35 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Nice one. I have never heard that before.


22 posted on 07/08/2005 8:04:32 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Monterrosa-24

There are lots of chemicals that are put in the water supply that have nothing to do with just making it safe. There are things that take safe water and make it look, taste, and smell better. That is over and above what is needed for safety. Should they be discontinuted too?


23 posted on 07/08/2005 8:10:51 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: dfwgator

"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration , Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids... "


24 posted on 07/08/2005 8:21:15 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: jim_trent

"There are lots of chemicals that are put in the water supply that have nothing to do with just making it safe. There are things that take safe water and make it look, taste, and smell better..."

The difference is Water Works can add what it wants to its water to please its public. The Federal government MANDATES fluoride. Fluoride is OK but when BIG BROTHER pushes it onto every little municipal utility, then it becomes a nanny state game and a boom to the bottled water industry.


25 posted on 07/08/2005 8:29:43 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24
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To: jim_trent
"can cause discoloration of the teeth."

Andrews, Texas and the southern plains of Texas is the home of natural floride.

Those native to Andrews (born/raised) are identified by a bar across their two front teeth. Cavities are not common in that region.

26 posted on 07/08/2005 9:42:55 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: Monterrosa-24

> The Federal government MANDATES fluoride.

Could you provide a source for that?

I did a Google-UncleSam search and read 40 CFR 141 and 142 on water quality regulations. The Feds do recommend Fluoride (as they do several other additives to water), but I did not find anything about them requiring it. They do require that if there is more than 4.0mg/l naturally occuring in the water, that the consumer be warned about the adverse affects to their teeth.

Interestingly, the DoD does require Fluoride in all water systems that they operate (mainly on isolated military bases), but this is not required when they buy from other water suppliers.

If they don't require it, how is this different from the other chemicals that local water supplies add in response to consumer pressure?


27 posted on 07/08/2005 9:47:14 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent
Found on a tube of Colgate toothpaste: "If more than used for brushing is accidentally swallowed, get mecdical help or contact a Poison Control Center right away."

28 posted on 07/08/2005 10:00:52 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
The controversy is not about the benefits and risks of fluoride but about the government deciding what medicines to push down our throats.

Exactly.

Flouride can easily be taken on one's own.

29 posted on 07/08/2005 10:03:04 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: jim_trent

The same way the Fed mandate a 55 mph speed limit. The states had the freedom to set their own speed limits but would lose federal money.


30 posted on 07/08/2005 10:18:41 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24
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To: Puppage
You definitely have to read about the loons in Vermont who refused fluoride in their drinking water They have a wonderful set of tooth.

Why should we stop with fluoride? There are many substances/drugs that could be put into our water supply for our own good. Why not Prozac?

Ever wonder why bottled water is so popular?

31 posted on 07/08/2005 10:31:56 AM PDT by A. Patriot
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To: Monterrosa-24

Again, do you have a source? I have not found any such requirement. I have seen a map that shows percentage of states that have fluoridation and those that do not (see http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5014a1.htm towards the bottom). If it is a Federal law, how do they get away with not doing not having fluoridation?

How about specific facts instead of just parroting the conspiracy theories.


32 posted on 07/08/2005 10:44:43 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: A. Patriot

See post 27. I have looked and have not found any Federal laws requiring fluoridation. If you have a source, I would be interested in knowing it.

BTW, there is a lot of Prozac (and a number of other chemicals) in most water supplies. You are probably not interested in how it gets there and I won't say at lunchtime.

Also BTW, I always thought bottled water was a sign that someone had more money than brains.


33 posted on 07/08/2005 10:47:51 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent

I'm discussing the debate about fluoride when it was a hot topic over 40 years ago when even the William F. Buckley conservatives were united with the Birch Society conservatives in opposiing this aspect of the nanny state. I haven't seen any pitched battles over the subject recently but James Jackson Kilpatrick had an article recapping the debate which was published mmmm perhaps five years ago. You should be able to find that one.


34 posted on 07/08/2005 10:50:59 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24
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35 posted on 07/08/2005 12:52:13 PM PDT by kimmie7 (What is the cost of innocence lost, anyway?! What price must be paid for crushing it? A great one.)
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To: jim_trent
Water Fluoridation: A Review of Recent Research and Actions [PDF file]

National Fluoridation Symposium 2005: Celebrating 60 Years of Water Fluoridation

A Bibliography of Scientific Literature on Fluoride
36 posted on 12/20/2005 1:41:02 PM PST by slowry
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