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Here is some excellent information on this bill. You can also find more information at the NRAMembersCouncils.com web site. (Click on the "Legislative Info & Contact Tools" link in the upper-left corner of the page.)
1 posted on 07/07/2005 9:18:53 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Mr. Mojo

Ping!


2 posted on 07/07/2005 9:20:02 AM PDT by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: Redcloak
SAAMI: Senate Bill 357 Could Ban Handgun Ammunition in California

Then, if they ban murder, they'll have their socialistic utopia they've always wanted.

It just feeeeeeeeels so good.

3 posted on 07/07/2005 9:20:46 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Redcloak

The people who support this are the same people who oppose laws that keep gang members from congregating together in public parks. The only problem with guns is the bad guys who own them, not the good guys who own them.


4 posted on 07/07/2005 9:21:56 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: Redcloak
Just wait, some assbat will come along and say something stupid like, "You have nothing to worry about if you have nothing to hide. Law abiding people won't be affected by this. Move along citizen, nothing to see here..."

Morons. I'm gonna put a serious bitch slap on the next person I hear saying crap like that.

5 posted on 07/07/2005 9:27:54 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: Redcloak

They never rest so neither can we. Keep up the good fight California!


6 posted on 07/07/2005 9:29:10 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: Redcloak

I predict a large market in used brass and handloading supplies. Or mail order. Or ammo stores just over the state lines.

"Shop at Joe's Stateline Bait, beer, ammo".


7 posted on 07/07/2005 9:34:56 AM PDT by garyhope (moules et frites)
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To: Redcloak

The government can not ban our guns under the constitution, so the ban the ammo?

Tyranny by any other name is still tyranny. When will we wake up and realize this government is out of control?


8 posted on 07/07/2005 9:36:44 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Illegals should be Caught and Deported; not Released and Supported!)
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To: Redcloak

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/VG1.html

Practice gun control: burn a lot of Hercules powder.


10 posted on 07/07/2005 9:43:15 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Redcloak
Load yer own.
11 posted on 07/07/2005 9:45:52 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Redcloak

Of course, terrorists, criminals, paedophiles, etc, would effectively be exempt.

Slowly, by degrees, a nation is brought to servitude and tyranny. It seldom happens overnight.


13 posted on 07/07/2005 9:49:36 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Redcloak

So .. what are all the Hollyweird celebrities going to do when they cannot get ammunition LEGALLY. Does anyone doubt for a moment that they will still have their body guards and their body guards will have plenty of ammo.

This is outrageous - and I don't think the repubs in the CA state legislature will allow this to pass. There are just enough repubs to keep bad stuff from being passed.

What we need is double the amount of repubs so we can get some POSITIVE things done.


15 posted on 07/07/2005 9:51:21 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Redcloak

A new class of criminals emerges...those with reloading equipment who wont or dont have the equipment to serial number bullets and cartriges..

But since they wont be licensed they will be outlaws...

Meanwhile the gang bangers will bring in ammo from out of state, and Mexico

And so law enforcement can spend it's time chasing varmint hunters with 22s and ignore violent criminals, narco terrorists, and Al Qaida

But a lawless nation is what they want...in order to bring about the 3rd world dictatorship the elite crave..


17 posted on 07/07/2005 9:58:20 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Does the Red Crescent have falafel dollies?)
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To: Redcloak

I can't believe the Gubernator would sign such a bill. Even a meathead like him should have more sense.

His attorney must have his head up his butt.


18 posted on 07/07/2005 9:58:30 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Redcloak

Every ammunition manufacturer needs to state that it will no longer supply ammunition to California law-enforcement agencies if this bill becomes law.


21 posted on 07/07/2005 10:17:11 AM PDT by gieriscm
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To: Redcloak
A ban on private gun ownership through the backdoor. This bill is unconstitutional, economically ludicrous, and a nightmare to implement. The reason it should be opposed is there are other ways to solve crimes that does not infringe on the RKBA that haven't even been tried yet.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
27 posted on 07/07/2005 12:27:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Redcloak
On any firing range,t here are a number of bullets laying downrange. Many of these have no damage, other than the grooves left by the rifling.

Being the curious sort, I picked up some of these bullets and reloaded them. They have plenty of accuracy out to 50 yards.

Now just suppose I wanted to kill someone. I go to the nearest firing range, pick up some of these magic serialized bullets, and reload them with very light loads.

At this point I have the perfect murder weapon. The police recover these magic bullets and come looking for you, or whomever they are registered to.

It may not result in the "perfect crime", but it sure throws a curve in the investigation and screws up the life of the "registered owner" of those bullets. Even worse the crime scene has bullets from two or more "registered owners"

28 posted on 07/07/2005 4:11:46 PM PDT by snowtigger (It ain't what you shoot, it's what you hit...)
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