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Afghanistan - U.S. officials reveal details of downing of helicopter and missing Navy SEALs
Associated Press | July 7, 2005

Posted on 07/06/2005 10:31:14 PM PDT by HAL9000

The last radio contact was an urgent appeal for help. Night was falling, a rainstorm threatening, and four U.S. Navy SEAL commandos were surrounded by about a dozen militants in rugged, wooded mountains. They needed reinforcements.

That hurried call set in motion a chain of events that would lead to the U.S. military's deadliest blow in Afghanistan, and the greatest loss of life ever for the elite force of SEALs.

Nine days after the ambush and subsequent downing of a U.S. special forces helicopter with 16 troops aboard, U.S military officials in Kabul and Washington are starting to draw a clearer picture of what happened and have revealed some details.

The four commandos - one of whom was rescued, two killed and one who is still missing - were on a reconnaissance mission on June 28 as part of Operation Red Wing, searching for Taliban-led rebels and al-Qaida fighters in Kunar province, U.S. military spokesman Col. James Yonts said.

The eastern province has long been a hotbed of militant activity and a haven for fighters loyal to renegade former premier Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who is wanted by the United States. U.S. officials said al-Qaida fighters also were in the region. Osama bin Laden was not said to be there - though he is believed to be somewhere along the Afghanistan-Pakistan frontier.

The region's rugged, wooded mountains are popular with militants because they are easy to infiltrate from neighboring Pakistan and have plenty of places to hide.

The SEAL team - specially trained "not only in the art of combat, but also in medicine and communications" - were attacked by a "pretty large force of enemy terrorists" and radioed for reinforcements, Yonts said at a news conference.

After the radio call for help, eight Navy SEALs and an eight-member crew from the Army's 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, known as the Night Stalkers, flew toward the mountains in a special forces MH-47 Chinook helicopter.

It was dusk as they neared the high-altitude battlefield.

Suddenly, militants hiding in the thick forest fired what is believed to have been a rocket-propelled grenade at the massive chopper, hitting it, he said.

Lt. Gen. James Conway, director of operations for the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, described the shot as "pretty lucky."

Though damaged, the chopper flew on for about a mile before making a poor landing on a small ledge on the side of the mountain, then tumbling into a steep ravine. All 16 onboard are thought to have died in the crash. Militants then swarmed over the wreckage.

The Chinook, when hit, had been flying alongside other choppers. Their pilots immediately informed U.S. commanders of the crash, a U.S. official said on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of information regarding special forces operations.

U.S. warplanes, more helicopters and forces on the ground were dispatched to the site, but they were hampered by the approaching rainstorm that lashed the mountains for 24 hours.

In the meantime, there was no contact from the four commandos. No one knew if they had been killed in the firefight, or had survived and escaped but were unable to radio for help, the official said.

Fears were raised even more when a purported Taliban spokesman, Mullah Latif Hakimi, claimed rebels had captured one of the men. But he gave no proof and U.S. officials were skeptical.

Hakimi - who also claimed insurgents shot down the helicopter - often calls news organizations to take responsibility for attacks, and the information frequently proves exaggerated or untrue. His exact tie to the Taliban leadership is unclear.

U.S. forces finally reached the wreckage of the helicopter last Thursday, 36 hours after it went down.

"We put forces on the ground, we established positions so no more enemy could enter the region. Little by little we took control of the greater area so we could reach the crash site and begin recovery operations," another military spokesman, Lt. Col. Jerry O'Hara, told The Associated Press.

U.S. officials initially said 17 people were on the chopper, but later revised it downward when they realized that one of the service members who was listed on the flight manifest did not get on the aircraft.

The bodies of the 16 - ages 21 to 40 - were recovered and flown to Bagram, the main U.S. base in Afghanistan, before being transported to Dover, Delaware in the United States.

Then on Saturday, a breakthrough came in the desperate search for the four commandos. A friendly tribal elder living in the nearby mountains told authorities he was caring for one of them in his house, Kunar Gov. Asadullah Wafa said. It wasn't clear how the commando got there, he said.

U.S. forces rushed to the site and found the commando, wounded, but in a stable condition. He was flown to Bagram for treatment - and a debriefing, giving military commanders the first crucial clues about what happened to the ill-fated team.

But the good news didn't last.

On Saturday, a U.S. airstrike in the region killed as many as 17 civilians, prompting a strong rebuke by the Afghan government. The next day, U.S. troops in the area spotted the bodies of two of the commandos in a deep ravine. It took another 24 hours to recover their remains and fly them to Bagram.

It was the largest loss of U.S. Navy SEALs in a single incident since the force of about 2,400 was formed in 1962.

U.S. commanders refused to give up hope for the fourth missing service member. About 300 troops and numerous aircraft were still in the area Wednesday, searching for him and hunting "a large number" of militants, Yonts said.

"We're, of course, doing everything we can to find the last of the four SEALs. And it's a real priority, and something the president asked to get briefed on this morning," National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said aboard Air Force One.

The U.S. military has remained tightlipped on what the commandos were doing in the area, or what happened to the men following their urgent calls for help and the helicopter crash.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chinook; hakimi; hekmatyar; navyseals; nightstalkers; operationredwing; seals; specialforces; taleban; taliban; usarmy; usnavy

1 posted on 07/06/2005 10:31:15 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

Continued Prayers for Our Troops.


2 posted on 07/06/2005 10:37:10 PM PDT by ChefKeith (If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking.)
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To: HAL9000

May the commando be found quickly.


3 posted on 07/06/2005 10:53:13 PM PDT by parisa
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To: HAL9000

Gee, I wonder why the Pakistanis don't send a couple of battalions over to help us in Pakistan? Wouldn't it be in their best interest to fight terrorists?

Bomb the enemy wherever he hides, period.


4 posted on 07/07/2005 12:53:25 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: HAL9000

The game is starting to get rough. The enemy (domestic) will demand immediate surrender.

Looks like the relief Chinook flew into a prepared field of fire. The ground patrol was brought under fire at that place and time so that the relief Chinook, following a predictable pattern, would be destroyed. Probably an ambush at the intended landing zone. The country probably was chosen so that ambushes could be set at all usable landing zones. Reminds me of the old days.

The enemy (foreign) ran a pretty good operation. Looks like we have become predictable.

Time for a little "tit for tat", or, vulgarly, "payback time". Bet you there has been plenty so far. Bet you there are a bunch of good men on the ground taking care of business this second. Your mind is your most important weapon.


5 posted on 07/07/2005 12:58:20 AM PDT by Iris7 ("What fools these mortals be!" - Puck, in "Midsummer Night's Dream")
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To: TomasUSMC
because the afghans cant stand the pakis...my terp told me yest that they believe the pakis are the biggest reason we have problems still here in Afghanistan.

One of the things that makes it sad about this helicopter and its crew is that it takes a tragedy really for this country to get any notice. I wonder if most Americans realize that Afghanistan actually has one of the first female governors in its history...a milestone for any Muslim country, especially after years of Taliban rule...
6 posted on 07/07/2005 1:09:32 AM PDT by yankeegohome (smile, because it makes everyone uncomfortable)
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To: yankeegohome

Don't let them play Nam all over again. Break the rules and destroy the enemy.


7 posted on 07/07/2005 1:17:16 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: HAL9000

#2 was the SEAL assault on Patilla Airfield during Operation Just Cause. They lost four men.

http://www.specwarnet.net/miscinfo/patilla.htm


8 posted on 07/07/2005 1:20:45 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Iris7
Time for a little "tit for tat", or, vulgarly, "payback time".

Yeah....time to smite the Moabites.

9 posted on 07/07/2005 1:31:48 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: TomasUSMC; yankeegohome
Don't let them play Nam all over again. Break the rules and destroy the enemy.

Concurring bump. Write our own playbook.

yankeegohome, are you in-country Afghanistan?

10 posted on 07/07/2005 1:35:15 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
They lost four men.

Four were lost in Urgent Fury also.

11 posted on 07/07/2005 1:51:09 AM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: HAL9000

Would a V22 Osprey have helped here ?


12 posted on 07/07/2005 2:13:22 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: All
Please God, let the military find the missing SEAL instead of leaving it to the State Department.

And God, please forgive this country for letting the State Department abandon Matt Maupin, and Michael Speicher, and my guy, Col. Standerwick, and all the others we've administratively killed and officially forgotten.

13 posted on 07/07/2005 2:22:16 AM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty)
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To: HAL9000

God, please protect any of our troops who are right now in the midst of our enemy. Give them the fortitude to come home safe and sound.


14 posted on 07/07/2005 3:25:52 AM PDT by Recon Dad
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To: HAL9000
Lord have mercy..

Lt. Gen. James Conway, director of operations for the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, described the shot as "pretty lucky."

Yep. "pretty lucky".

15 posted on 07/07/2005 5:42:16 AM PDT by Alia
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