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Wal-mart Demands Diversity in Law Firms
Fulton County Daily Report via Law.Com ^ | July 6, 2005 | Meredith Hobbs

Posted on 07/06/2005 2:34:54 PM PDT by tdewey10

Wal-Mart Demands Diversity in Law Firms

Outside counsel must comply or lose its business, says GC at nation's biggest retailer

Law firms that pack their lower ranks with minorities and women while leaving white men in charge are about to find Wal-Mart a tough customer.

The nation's biggest retailer wants to see diversity at the top. The company's general counsel has told its top 100 law firms that at least one person of color and one woman must be among the top five relationship attorneys that handle its business.

Wal-Mart GC Thomas Mars made the announcement last week at an Atlanta conference on legal diversity. Top lawyers at Visa International, Del Monte, Pitney Bowes and Cox Communications also said they have begun requiring outside counsel to demonstrate that there are substantive numbers of women and minority lawyers in the upper levels of their firms.

Mars, whose department spends about $200 million a year on outside legal services, said he realized he had to do something when he saw that 82 of the top 100 relationship partners handling the company's business are white men.

Those firms get $142 million of the company's business, with individual firms' fees ranging from $350,000 to $13 million.

The goal, said Wal-Mart's associate general counsel, Samuel M. Reeves, is to "increase the number of women and minorities directly responsible for the Wal-Mart relationship at our law firms."

Mars, Reeves and the other GCs were participants in the fourth annual Symposium on Diversity in the Legal Profession, organized by the Atlanta Legal Diversity Consortium.

The move by Wal-Mart appeared to answer two of the big questions posed at the symposium that drew about 400 lawyers from around the country: Do general counsel at large companies consider the number of women and minority lawyers employed by outside counsel when deciding whom to hire -- and will they move business away from firms that remain overwhelmingly white and male?

That prospect has become serious since Sara Lee's top lawyer, Roderick A. Palmore, issued a "call to action" last year warning that he and the other signatories would consider a firm's diversity when hiring outside counsel. So far, close to 100 general counsel have signed on, including those from some of the nation's biggest companies.

Wal-Mart's move, sent in a letter to outside counsel last month, upped the ante.

Once the retailing giant gets lists of attorneys from its outside firms, due in mid-July, it will start weeding accordingly, Mars said. "We'll be making more decisions to retain and terminate firms [at that point]," he said.

"We are terminating a firm right now strictly because of their inability to grasp our diversity expectations," he added.

NO LONGER ENOUGH

Wal-Mart's new policy signals a growing determination by corporate legal departments to pressure outside counsel. It is no longer enough, the general counsel at the symposium said, to raise the numbers of women and minority lawyers in a firm's lower ranks if its upper echelons remain an exclusive club for white men.

Although the number of women and minorities running corporate law departments is disproportionately low, it is far higher than at the nation's top law firms.

Mars acknowledged that corporate legal departments also have a way to go on diversity. Wal-Mart's legal department started an effort to increase its own diversity about 2 1/2 years ago. "We had 50 lawyers and no particular diversity in the group," he said. Last year, the company hired 39 lawyers and 15 were minorities, he said. Now Wal-Mart wants to hold its outside counsel to the same standard.

Guy Rounsaville Jr., general counsel at Visa, agreed with Mars that just looking at the number of women and minorities at a firm is not enough. He said he wants to make sure the women and minority lawyers are among the client relationship managers.

"I get intrusive about who in the firm is getting credit for the relationship," he said, adding that Visa also asks outside counsel for a monthly diversity report.

Del Monte General Counsel James G. Potter said that his company's requests for proposals always include a question about the firm's track record in hiring and promoting women and minorities -- and their likelihood to be assigned to the company's work. Failing to address that question substantively "dramatically lowers a firm's chances of reaching the interview stage," he said.

Pitney Bowes' GC, Michele Coleman Mayes, said she focuses her scrutiny on the firms where her company spends the most money, adding that she looks at the law firms' numbers and also talks to their lawyers to gauge how hospitable the cultures are to women and minorities.

AVOIDING A ZERO-SUM GAME

Not everyone at the symposium thought diversity should be judged mostly by numbers. James A. Hatcher, senior vice president for legal and regulatory affairs at Atlanta-based Cox Communications, said that he does not ask firms to quantify their diversity. "I want diversity to be part of the culture," he said.

To find out if firms are fostering what he called an "inclusive environment," he asks his outside counsel a lot of questions. "At meetings with firms I'll ask, 'Why are there just white males here?' Or I'll probe associates to see how it is working there," he said.

Hatcher said his measure is "inclusiveness" instead of "diversity" because he does not want to pit white men against women and minorities.

"I try to include the white male in this," he said, explaining that sometimes "white males fear diversity efforts." Increased diversity at law firms should be a win-win situation, not a zero-sum game where white men lose opportunity as women and minorities gain it, he said.

DIVERSITY EDUCATION

To help firm managers make their environments more inclusive, the Atlanta Large Law Firm Diversity Alliance will launch a diversity education program next fall. Executive director Melanie Harrington, who announced the new program at the symposium, said it's the first of its kind.

The group has developed a management training program aimed at making the environment more hospitable for minorities -- instead of just getting the numbers up, she said.

Firm managers need to become "more cognizant that they have people coming into their environment who are not aspiring to assimilate but to contribute as they are," she said.

The program is aimed at practice leaders and others in large firms with an interest in managing diversity, Harrington said. For more information, see the American Institute for Managing Diversity's Web site, or call (404) 575-2131.

The Alliance's 11 member firms are Alston & Bird; Arnall Golden Gregory; Jones Day; Kilpatrick Stockton; King & Spalding; McKenna Long & Aldridge; Morris, Manning & Martin; Powell Goldstein; Smith, Gambrell & Russell; Sutherland Asbill & Brennan; and Troutman Sanders.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; aldc; diversity; law; quotas; walmart
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To: tdewey10

I wonder if all the firms currently suing Wal-Mart over diversity- and discrimination-related issues have the same problem? Perhaps? Would be pretty hypocritical for a firm suing on behalf of aggrieved victims of alleged discrimination to not have people of color on their boards of directors, wouldn't it?


41 posted on 07/06/2005 4:13:16 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection...)
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To: Gunrunner2
You know, I have nothing against Wal-Mart being a business. . .that is what they are good at., . .but this social engineering and bean-counting nonsense is darned dumb on their part.

Most times big business is just as bad as big government. This is one of those times. Walmart got to be a great company by using technology and economy of scale to lower costs and then pass the savings to the customer. These days they are filling their aisles with no-name crap to squeeze margins. If Walmart gets worse legal services, they'll have to pass the costs on. That's no way to do business, but they'll have noone to blame but themselves.

42 posted on 07/06/2005 4:17:04 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Williams
Walmart is far from the first big company to do this. Others long ago had firms filling out paperwork listing women and minorities. Sadly this is all nonsense for publicity sake.

A few years back, I had a job doing software to do statistical analysis of risk/return of minority-run mutual funds. The firm that wanted it done did consulting work for municipal pension funds that had a mandate to put a certain percentage of their money in the care of women/minority-owned firms

I don't remember the exact numbers I found, but there was a SIGNIFICANTLY worse rate of return from minority-run fund managers.

43 posted on 07/06/2005 4:22:56 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When peace stands for surrender, fear, loss of dignity and freedom, it is no longer peace.)
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To: tdewey10
"At meetings with firms I'll ask, 'Why are there just white males here?'

Why aren't there more women and minorities at NASA's Mission Control. Why don't more women and minorities win the Nobel prizes for Science and Economics?

44 posted on 07/06/2005 4:29:07 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Homophobic and Proud!)
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To: John Jorsett
Bingo.

And WalMart will wind up paying handsomely for its demands, because the law firms will (very rightly) feel that they can bill this additional cost of doing business to the client - since the client demanded it.

I see some very creative hourly billing on the horizon.

45 posted on 07/06/2005 4:32:07 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: demkicker

"I'm sorry, but who in the hell does Wal-Mart think they are DEMANDING diversity from ANY profession?"

The customer.

"Oh, and what is Wal-Mart going to do to law firms that don't comply with their DEMANDS?"

Not hire them.

Part of the problem here is that Wal-Mart does get sued in regions with large minority populations and large numbers of women in the jury pool, and the plaintiff counsel will frequently use an implicit "Wal-Mart's just a bunch of white men looking to oppress you" argument to sway the jury. Having a legal team that is 100% white male does not help.


46 posted on 07/06/2005 4:34:59 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: RetiredArmy

I have also heard that a white disabled person applying for Social Security disability payments is more likely to gain benefits if he has a "minority" attorney.


47 posted on 07/06/2005 4:35:33 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: tdewey10

Yet one more reason that "Lao gai" Mart can stick it up their a**. I can't believe the people here that cheer them on.


48 posted on 07/06/2005 4:39:31 PM PDT by ExcelJockey
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To: tdewey10

bahahaa the lefties forced Walmart to put in diversity with lawsuits flying. Now Walmart forces it on them! Almost every lawyers I see high up is white and male.


49 posted on 07/06/2005 4:41:42 PM PDT by ran15
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To: tdewey10

This is great news!

The lawyers have been the ones dragging everybody else into court. Now they're hoist on their own petard! LOL


50 posted on 07/06/2005 4:44:14 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: demkicker

I'm not a Walmart basher but Walmart has been in so much trouble for not looking out for the little guy, but suddenly they want to enforce diversity within the law firms taht defend walmart from every slip and fall, pro union, sex age and race discrimination claim, etc. How about paying more money to minority employees? The lawyers are rich.


51 posted on 07/06/2005 4:58:17 PM PDT by Williams
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To: tdewey10

bookmark


52 posted on 07/06/2005 5:10:15 PM PDT by Alia
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To: tdewey10

Heard inside outside counsel offices :

Quick Ethel hire me some black people and some hispanic and some illegal aliens and some .......


53 posted on 07/06/2005 5:10:35 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: tdewey10

Great move WalMart....I award you 10 Jesse Jackson rainbow points (sarcasm)


54 posted on 07/06/2005 5:12:12 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: tdewey10

bookmark


55 posted on 07/06/2005 5:21:51 PM PDT by Alia
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To: tdewey10

"Words fail me. This is just completely insane. No more shopping at Wal-Mart."

Not so fast. The left and supporters of the left like Costco's is continually bashing WalMart. I think WM is retaliating by saying "if that's the way it's going to be you're going to take some of you're own medicine."

Make the trial lawyers comply with their own self rightous BS.


56 posted on 07/06/2005 5:24:49 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: kublia khan

If it was good enough for Shakespeare, it ought to be good enough for you.

CA....


57 posted on 07/06/2005 5:38:20 PM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Part of the problem here is that Wal-Mart does get sued in regions with large minority populations and large numbers of women in the jury pool, and the plaintiff counsel will frequently use an implicit "Wal-Mart's just a bunch of white men looking to oppress you" argument to sway the jury. Having a legal team that is 100% white male does not help.

Well, from the little scenario that you painted, it looks like Wal-Mart better take care of their own backyard before they start barking in others! No one is stopping Wal-Mart from choosing racially diversified law firms to represent them, so why don't they just shut the hell up and take care of their own business?

58 posted on 07/06/2005 5:47:56 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: mhking

fyi ping...


59 posted on 07/06/2005 5:51:54 PM PDT by NewLand (Faith in The Lord trumps all!)
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To: jess35
They're free to set up artificial quotas if they like. I just hope they don't bitch when they get substandard representation because they were only looking at skin color and reproductive organs instead of SKILL.

Very well said!

60 posted on 07/06/2005 5:54:33 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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