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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; bethholloway; boycottaruba; fubaruba; jossymansur; kalpoes; mariainecroes; natalee; nataleeholloway; rubentrapenberg; vandersloots
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To: GarySpFc

I bet Thomas wishes he had done so too.


61 posted on 07/04/2005 8:47:39 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: kcvl

Oh great, they will hold their news conference tomorrow morning and I have to go to work. However, I may catch it since I'm in B.C. which is 3 hours behind Aruba time.


62 posted on 07/04/2005 8:53:04 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68; All
If they have something earth shaking to say, I'll bet they'll only say it on Greta's show Tues. night. She's (FOX) given them the most PR in the case. Probably why they waited.
63 posted on 07/04/2005 8:53:34 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: GarySpFc

I agree, these guys could have made a deal to be witnesses at trial. Neither of these two guys are smiling arrogantly.


64 posted on 07/04/2005 8:55:05 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: GarySpFc; toldyou

if this stuff is true, then JVDS maybe had his nose flattened by the twitty kid and might have sought revenge on someone he could handle, such as an 18 year old girl dosed with GHB or something?

This WOULD be a bombshell!


65 posted on 07/04/2005 9:06:46 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: justche

**


66 posted on 07/04/2005 9:25:03 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Thanks for serving....looks like you were in the heat of it......'67 and '68. I was working as a nurse at Ft. Benning. Patients were medivacs.

Thanks again! Another hero!


67 posted on 07/04/2005 9:27:35 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: TexKat

That's part of the problem. These shows re-airing false info. Couldn't they find a better interview to re-air?


68 posted on 07/04/2005 9:32:27 PM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: TexKat

I would like to be the one to take the smile off his face


69 posted on 07/04/2005 9:52:27 PM PDT by vigilante2 (sometimes you just have to take the law into your own hands)
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To: Canadian Outrage

"I agree, these guys could have made a deal to be witnesses at trial. Neither of these two guys are smiling arrogantly."

Maybe so, but personally I won't believe a word they say unless they know where the body was buried or who Natalee was handed off to.


70 posted on 07/04/2005 10:30:04 PM PDT by MonaMars
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To: Rippersnapper

But if the Kalpoes leave the island for good, how could they ever be used as witnesses in a trial??


71 posted on 07/04/2005 10:54:51 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: TexKat
Those girls in the interview bugged me. If their necklines had been any higher, they would have been hats, and they sat there and answered everything "Yes, ma'am." "No, ma'am." Carlos & Charlie's was "just a place to go when the sun went down and you couldn't be on the beach any more."

Then you see the photo of them in Aruba with half their boobs exposed. You know they are not as prim as they are suggesting today.

72 posted on 07/04/2005 10:59:40 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

LMAO!!


73 posted on 07/04/2005 11:52:39 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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Local Search Team Headed for Aruba

A search crew from Monroe County is getting ready to head to Aruba to help with the search for a missing teenager.

Members of the Northeast Search and Rescue team were testing out and packing up their gear on Sunday. They'll take off for Aruba later this week to aid in the search for Natalee Holloway. The Alabama teenager disappeared on the island back in May while on a school trip.

The search crew will take sonar equipment, radios and search dogs. Members of the crew said they're happy to help but they know it will be emotionally difficult.

"It's part of what we do," said crew member Bruce Barton. "We try to give closure to the family and bring Natalee back home to the U.S. That's the main thing."

Members of the team are volunteers. They hope to get donations to help with the expense of the trip.

74 posted on 07/05/2005 12:02:58 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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Joran van der Sloot, left, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Monday, July 4, 2005, where a judge will decide if he and two other detained suspects in the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway will be held for 60 more days. Holloway disappeared on this Dutch Caribbean island on May 30, 2005. (AP Photo/Jason Inesea, Bon Dia)

July 4: Joran van der Sloot arrives at the courthouse in Oranjestad, Aruba.

75 posted on 07/05/2005 12:13:25 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Yaelle
But if the Kalpoes leave the island for good, how could they ever be used as witnesses in a trial??

Video taped testimony? Have they left? Will there be a trial?

76 posted on 07/05/2005 12:45:52 AM PDT by Rippersnapper
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Now playing:Suspects freed -MSNBC Video

Benvida Desousa, the Twittys Attorney Interview with Fox and Friends Video

According to the Twitty's attorney, Benvida Desousa states that the Twitty's may have possibilities to appeal if any of the suspects are released.

77 posted on 07/05/2005 1:37:24 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; Rippersnapper; ...
Natalee Holloway: Monday Night Late Report

While most eyes were on the beach observing the then three suspects visit there yesterday, another investigative team was visiting Paul(us) v d Sloot where the v d Sloot family is staying with friends. Reliable sources confirm he is not seen as cleared in the ongoing investigation. It was suggested that the prosecutor wants to be sure they have ample evidence to hold onto him in the event of a possible re-arrest.

With the focus shifting away from Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, some close to the investigation are looking more closely at the role of Paul(us) v d Sloot in whatever crimes may have taken place.

One unconfirmed report suggests the Dutch Ministry of Justice has formally requested the resignation of the elder Van der Sloot.

Additionally, Satish and Deepak are said to be co-operating with authorities, at least to the extent that they may testify in any pending trial; however, it was not been made clear if their statements will damage a presumed defense on behalf of Paul(us) and / or Joran v d Sloot, or support it.

Public relations efforts of some on the island to turn the focus away from Aruba and back toward America, more specifically Alabama seem to be gaining traction among the general population.

Various reports are emerging of things getting "ugly" between the press and Aruban passers by, with some claiming that while many islanders first seemed to be focusing their anger at the Van der Sloot family, they are now more than ever blaming America and American media for bringing this trouble to their shores.

When the Mother of the Kalpoe brothers appeared in front of the court house, some locals were urging her to speak only in the local dialect and ignore the American press. Most of any demonstrations in front of the court house seemed aimed at the media.

More and more rumors of an out of control group of high school students from the United States, with one of their party responsible for any potential crime are circulating ever more widely through portions of the general population. It seems an increasingly frustrated and basically friendly island population is looking for somewhere to focus their frustration through blame.

While there are conflicting reports as to the level of drugs and street crime on the island, for every source that suggests levels are very high, still other reliable sources suggest it actually seems lower than most other Caribbean tourist destinations. That wasn't the case as regards Carlos and Charlies.

Located in a part of town some have described as "seedy," observations from today suggest it is very much business as usual with what appeared to be several underage individuals hanging out and partying. One objective source indicated his observations gave him the impression that "hitting on female American tourists" seems to be an activity still very much associated with the night spot.

Other individuals report that the family of Natalee Holloway appears to be managing the media reasonably well and is reaching out to the press and maintaining contact to foster support in the event that they find it necessary to start "naming names" as far as what they might know of what is happening, or has happened behind the scenes of the five week long investigation.

It was reported to me that some members of the Holloway/Twitty family are increasingly convinced that they must keep and possibly even increase pressure on the Aruban authorities if they are to ever get answers to what happened to Natalee Holloway. That needs to be balanced with the earlier report that the investigation is on going and authorities are indicating that there is progress that can be made.

No time frame was suggested for a possible re-arrest of Paul(us) v d Sloot. And it was not described as an absolute certainty at this time.

78 posted on 07/05/2005 1:49:44 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; Rippersnapper; ...
You guys must read the comments here: Riehl World

Poster michele in bham does not think very highly of Natalee's group of friends.

The entire comment section is hot and interesting.

79 posted on 07/05/2005 2:43:00 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; Rippersnapper; ...
From Riehl World:

Riehl World

I am betting that Van der Sloot, Van Straaten and few others belong to his gold key club too and this is only part of the information the Holloway-Twitty's want to release. I'd hate to think that the tourist $$ spent in Aruba are being used to support terrorists. But I suspect that is the case because of a few VERY corrupt individuals on that island. No I don't think that is why Natalee was kidnapped, but because the family had to investigate the kidnapping since the Polis would not, they uncovered this information while they were at it just like we have.

Posted by: Island Hopper | July 5, 2005 12:29 AM

http://benking.com/actnow/

80 posted on 07/05/2005 2:53:18 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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