Posted on 07/03/2005 1:59:15 AM PDT by txradioguy
CAIRO, Egypt — Egypt's (search) first ambassador to post-Saddam Hussein Iraq has been kidnapped in Baghdad just a month after arriving in the country, Egyptian diplomats said Sunday. Two diplomats, speaking in Cairo and Baghdad on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, said Ihab al-Sherif was kidnapped late Saturday in the Iraqi capital. Al-Sherif had arrived in Baghdad on June 1.
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The religion of peace strikes again.....
What boggles my mind is that now they're turning on the people that are most likely to help them.
Terrorist Plan B. (Blowing themselves up was Plan A.) They must be running out of willing recruits, and they see brave Iraqis continuing to signing for police duty and the new Iraqi army, despite all their murderous efforts. They'll force the Egyptian to read an 'America is Evil' speech on video before they negotiate terms with Egypt to let him go.
This could come back to haunt them, notice I said COULD.
I sure hope that becomes a definate.
COuld you imagine if the Egyptians suddenly decided they wanted to play in Iraq and volunteered to send tropps to join us?
That could be the end of the end in Iraq.
I went to bed early and on Fox (I watched the rerun) they had a program about the nukes Iran is building, don't look good, for them. Israel will NOT let them complete their bombs and goodness know just what all they have to hit them with we have no idea what but they said over and over, Iran will Not have a nuke to attack them with.
Here we are trying to promote freedom to the middle east countries, the radical leaders say no, we say yes, and the world goes on, for now anyhow. I have religious beliefs myself on this matter of just what is in store for this world, ain't good for this ole earth.
Who shot the "Sherif"?
Welcome to the party, pal!
Somehow, I think our close ally status with Israel will keep the USA and Egypt on opposite sides of any potential battlefield
Openly it will, but if they start chopping heads off of the sons of Egypt, things may well change.
I don't see troops ever going, since Iraq doesn't want it's neighbors to have troops there, but perhaps other, behind the scenes, things.
http://www.eitb24.com/noticia_en.php?id=73241
Gunmen kidnap Egypt's Iraq envoy in Baghdad
The Egyptian Foreign Ministry, which said it was "checking reports" Sherif had "disappeared," has yet to confirm it plans to upgrade his post. The Baghdad mission had no comment.
Egypt's envoy to Iraq has been kidnapped in Baghdad, possibly in response to reports he was to become the first full-ranking Arab ambassador to the U.S.-backed Iraqi government, diplomats and police sources said on Sunday.
Ihab el-Sherif, the head of mission, was cornered by gunmen in cars while on a short trip to buy a newspaper near his home on Saturday evening and had not been heard from since, the diplomat told Reuters on condition that he was not identified.
"The motives are believed to be political," he said, noting that Iraq's foreign minister had said just last week that Egypt would become the first Arab state to appoint a full-ranking ambassador to Baghdad since the fall of Saddam Hussein.
The Egyptian Foreign Ministry, which said it was "checking reports" Sherif had "disappeared," has yet to confirm it plans to upgrade his post. The Baghdad mission had no comment.
Iraqi police sources said they had found the envoy's white four-wheel drive car undamaged not far from his home.
An upgrade to full ambassadorial status for Sherif on the part of Egypt, the most populous and traditionally most powerful Arab state, could enhance the standing of a new Iraqi government many Arabs view with suspicion because of its backing from the United States and sectarian ties to Shi'ite Iran.
"He was buying a newspaper on Saturday evening when two BMWs full of gunmen blocked his way and kidnapped him," the diplomat told Reuters, saying there had been no word from the kidnappers.
It appeared the envoy had been on his own, he said.
The Big Pharaoh
http://bigpharaoh.blogspot.com/2005/07/egypts-ambassador-to-iraq-kidnapped.html
Sunday, July 03, 2005
Egypt's Ambassador to Iraq Kidnapped
Egypt's first ambassador to post-Saddam Iraq was kidnapped. It is clear that the terrorists want to send a message to all Arab countries telling them not to send envoys to Shia/Kurds dominated Iraq.
Now it is very clear that the insurgents are very well connected, very well financed, and they can carry out almost any operation that hits their imagination. Besides, it is very clear that they do enjoy considerable support among Iraq's Sunni population. You want to know why? Well, imagine that in 1920 blacks took over Alabama and the KKK started a terror campaign against the new rulers of the state. I am sure many whites would at least silently support what the KKK were doing even if they didn't engage in the violence themselves. Suddenly the KKK will became the "spokesperson" or the "defenders" of the whites and those who fight for their place in Alabama. This is the reason why those Sunni politicians, who just like their fellow Shia/Kurds entered Iraqi politics on a US tank, are now calling the terrorists as "resistance". They know that many fellow Sunnis (who will give them their votes) believe that the terrorists are "resistance" who are fighting the US and the Shias/Kurds who benefited the most from post-Saddam Iraq. Just go to BBC forum and read the comments coming from Iraq, Sunnis are from Mars, Shias/Kurds are from Venus.
Something tells me that the ambassador will be released unharmed just like the Egyptian diplomat who was also kidnapped a year ago. Egypt has a strong intelligence system, I bet they know a Sheikh in Cairo who knows a Sheikh in Demascus who is in contact with the Saddamists in Syria who are supporting a Sheikh in Baghdad who knows the terrorists.
The way forward cannot be different from the below 3 options:
1. Sunnification. This is what's happening now. Talking to the Sunnis and their "resistance" to bring them in. However, some might agree to lay down their arms, others might continue killing until they extract new demands, and others will never lay down arms because they believe they are currently having the upper hand and the thought of sharing Iraq is an impossibility. Sadamists might agree to talk, hardcore Islamists will fight till their death, yet removing the Sadamists from the equation will be a huge step forward.
2. Fight till they're defeated and couple that with political action. This is the route taken by Israel in the intifada. Fight fight fight, kill Sheikh Yassen, kill Rantisi, build a huge wall, yet still get out from Gaza. The political action taken by Israel is taken while Hamas and Co. are deeply hurt from the assassination of a number of their most notable leaders, even those who are in Syria. Hamas & Co. cannot feel victorious the way Hezbollah felt when Ehud Barak pulled out from Lebanon.
This option would require at least 350,000 more US boots and of course that's an impossible decision for Bush to take.
3. Civil War. Withdraw coalition forces, arm the Kurdish and Shia militia to the teeth, and sit back and watch a civil war unfolds over a 5 years time span. Let the civil war dictate the realities on the group a la what happened in Lebanon. If this option was adopted, we can kiss the Iraqi enterprise goodbye.
I go for the first option. The other 2 options are dreadful. The first option is very slow and extremely painful as we're witnessing now, yet its the only logical option. In other words, there is nothing else that could be done besides what is being done now. May be greedy Shias/Kurds should offer more concessions or more pressure added on Syria, but I don’t see anything else to be done. Withdrawing US troops is an impossibility and adding to their current levels is an impossibility as well.
Didn't the high holy guy in Egypt just issue a "return" speech to their terrorist brothers in Iraq? "Return and regroup" or some such? Maybe some of the Iranian/Syrian terrorists took exception to it, and are showing them what's what.
Let them fight amongst themselves - OK by me!
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Looks civilized, no unkempt beard.
Interesting thoughts!
Egypt is the big dog in the neighborhood. Nobody sane wants to kick the big dog. Must be the terrorists and whatever they call them mercenaries are near the end of their trail.
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