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Judge John Roberts (D.C. Circuit): D.C. Circuit Judge Gets on Supreme Court Short List.
Legal Times ^ | Tony Mauro

Posted on 07/01/2005 12:02:10 PM PDT by alessandrofiaschi

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To: ClearCase_guy

It would depend on the case. The conservative stand is not always the correct one. Sometimes when a judge decides against the "conservative" position, it tends to be because he/she doesn't think it's a federal issue. I am comfortable with a judge who will be as much against conservative judicial activism as one who is against liberal judicial activism. As long as he interprets the Constitution as written and originally intended, I'm satisfied.


41 posted on 07/01/2005 2:10:53 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: jbwbubba

That could also mean that it's Gonzales (who I would personally oppose - of all the supposed candidates he's the least appealing) and that the White House is tapping Cornyn as his "sponsor" to shepherd him through the technicalities of the confirmation process.


42 posted on 07/01/2005 2:17:48 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero
Quite a few people have pointed out to me that a judge who always decides cases in a way that is aimed at pleasing Conservatives is not a good judge. I agree completely.

It's a matter of semantics, I think. In the article, it says that his votes often fall on "the conservative side". My reading of that (which was perhaps incorrect) was that Roberts often decides in favor of Original Intent and in accordance with how the Constitution is actually written. This is what I would consider a conservative approach. Perhaps not the same as a Conservative approach.

I want a judge who cares about Original Intent and who does not legislate from the bench in an activist manner. I currently do not know if Roberts fits that description. Al I know is that I do not want a judge who "often" fits that description. I want a judge who is 100% in favor of Original Intent.

43 posted on 07/01/2005 2:18:17 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ncountylee

He's off most lists because of his age. The WH wants someone under 60.


44 posted on 07/01/2005 2:22:41 PM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: traviskicks

And that is why Democrats/liberals/progressives/socialists or whatever label they are using for themselves this week view originalists with such fear. They realize that, should a majority of the Court be composed of such originalists, they've lost all chance of attaining their agenda (since their agenda rarely generates sufficient public support to pass legislatively.....although it seems to be doing so more frequently - just look at the expansion of the Medicare entitlement and of the No Child Left Behind act!)


45 posted on 07/01/2005 2:24:33 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes, it depends completely on what the author was referring to. I think, though that he may have been referring to the outcome of the case in a political sense rather than the process/rationale used to justify the decision. I was rather concerned that Judge Roberts was indeed another Souter in waiting. Reading this article put my mind at ease, a bit. I was also quite surprised to read People for the American Way actually identified as liberal group for once instead of as non-partisan as you usually see in the MSM.


46 posted on 07/01/2005 2:27:23 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero

Well, lets see what sorts of things THE AUTHOR OF THE CONSTITUTION might find unconstitutional:

If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion into their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads; in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress. Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America.
-James Madison

(NCLB is uncosntitional, these pork barrel transportation bills are unconstitional, the department of transportation is unconstitional, the department of energy is unconstitional, the department of educaiton is unconstitional, and on and on and on and ona ndn on and on and on and on)

And bush is proposing to fund churches in his 'faith based' initiatives. It is just all so horrific.


47 posted on 07/01/2005 2:46:12 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/janicerogersbrown.htm)
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero

Cornyn could also indicate Garza or Owens. Cornyn knows them both since both are from Texas. I also believe that Cornyn worked with Garza.


48 posted on 07/01/2005 2:55:57 PM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: alessandrofiaschi
What about President Bush's choice?

He wants a "Strict Constitutionalist"! That's it! Not liberal, not conservative, just a strict constitutionalist!

He doesn't want any activist judges at all!

49 posted on 07/01/2005 3:13:14 PM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (Freedom comes to those who understands it!)
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To: Sonny M
Here is an example of what I would consider a idiotic law, "a taxi cannot pick up passengers at a bus stop", its socialist, its stupid, and it is constitutional.

My definition of a socialist law would not include your example (although you are right that it is a stupid law). To me, a socialist law is one that takes rights or property from one group of individuals to give to another with no separate public policy justification. Such laws are unconstitutional under an originalist interpretation of the constitution.

50 posted on 07/01/2005 8:41:51 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
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To: Texas Federalist
My definition of a socialist law would not include your example (although you are right that it is a stupid law). To me, a socialist law is one that takes rights or property from one group of individuals to give to another with no separate public policy justification. Such laws are unconstitutional under an originalist interpretation of the constitution.

Stop.

Your using logic and common sense.

This is the courts we are talking about.

Isn't there some kind of rule that bars using normal logical rational common sense?

I'm sorry, I just really hate these folks and resent the fact that they ignore the legislature.

If I sound bitter about judges, I do apologise.

I'm sorry, but I really do hate judges and have no faith in them whatsoever.

51 posted on 07/02/2005 1:55:55 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M
I'm sorry, I just really hate these folks and resent the fact that they ignore the legislature.

I share your feelings. However, my point was that you shouldn't focus your anger on judges ignoring the legislature, but rather ignoring the Constitution. Most of the laws written by the legislature are unconstitutional under an originalist interpretation. For example, a case striking down a gun control law on 2nd Amendment grounds would be ignoring the legislature, but is clearly just.

The legislature oversteps their authority as much as judges. The trick is to get judges in power like Clarence Thomas that will use the Constitution as their guide in striking down laws, rather than their own political whims. We also need to get more conservatives in acedemia. It is the law professors who are brainwashing the young lawyers that the :living breathing Constitution" is a legal reality.

52 posted on 07/02/2005 4:26:43 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Same here I don't want an activist judge even a conservative one. If the constitution for arguments sake said women have the right to all abortions.. then I would expect the judge to uphold that right. It is the job then of the congress and states to change the constitution.


53 posted on 07/02/2005 4:34:34 PM PDT by ran15
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To: Texas Federalist

Good point young conservatives seem drawn to other areas then law, like business. Part of it might be that you have to get some other degree, before you can go into law. And that other degree almost always seems to be some sort of social science type.

So they are getting a double brainwashing, first the left wing revisionist view of history or whichever social science, then more years of 'social justice' law professors.


54 posted on 07/02/2005 4:38:00 PM PDT by ran15
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To: Knight Templar
If he's good enough for Mark Levin, he's good enough for me.

Young, smart and conservative. Sounds like a winner to me.

55 posted on 07/19/2005 5:14:00 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: eyespysomething

Not Edith Jones or Brown, but Roberts looks pretty good to me. Bush kept faith with his supporters, IMO.


56 posted on 07/19/2005 5:15:26 PM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: ThePythonicCow
If he's good enough for Mark Levin, he's good enough for me.

I tend to agree. I'd like to see what Ann Coulter thinks as well.

57 posted on 07/19/2005 5:22:02 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: Sonny M

I remember reading that Bush 41 was hoodwinked by what's his name, the Senator from NH who went on to found that "centrist" organization. He and Biden laughed over lying to Bush Sr.


58 posted on 07/19/2005 5:23:27 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious ("My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."-Joe W)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Mark Levin, author of "Men in Black," a new conservative critique of the Supreme Court, sees no conflict and is a fan of Roberts. "In the short period he has been on the court, John Roberts has shown he does not bring a personal agenda to his work. He follows the Constitution, and he is excellent."

Do you oppose this?

59 posted on 07/19/2005 5:23:50 PM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Mark Levin, author of "Men in Black," a new conservative critique of the Supreme Court, sees no conflict and is a fan of Roberts. "In the short period he has been on the court, John Roberts has shown he does not bring a personal agenda to his work. He follows the Constitution, and he is excellent."

Do you oppose this?

60 posted on 07/19/2005 5:23:56 PM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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