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Black Men Attacked in Queens Neighborhood
My Way News ^ | 6/30/05 | AP

Posted on 06/30/2005 4:56:10 AM PDT by Abathar

NEW YORK (AP) - Three black men who ventured into a historically white neighborhood early Wednesday to steal a car were chased by a man with a baseball bat, police said. One man was beaten and suffered a fractured skull.

The attack happened several hours before dawn in the same section of the borough of Queens as an infamous 1986 beating of three black men whose car had broken down.

In Wednesday's attack, Nicholas Minucci, 21, was being charged with first-degree assault as a hate crime, menacing and criminal possession of a weapon, police Commissioner Ray Kelly said at a news conference.

The three blacks told investigators they had been looking for a car to steal when they entered the Howard Beach neighborhood. They told police a white man in an SUV passed them in the street, exchanged stares with them and then returned with two friends and a baseball bat before chasing them on foot.

Glen Moore, 20, stumbled to the ground and was beaten, suffering a fractured skull. He was in serious condition. The other two men escaped and summoned police, who scouted the neighborhood with them and spotted the SUV again.

Police stopped the vehicle and found the bat inside. The driver was arrested, and officers were seeking two other suspects.

The hate crime charge is punishable by a minimum of eight years in prison. The district attorney said that he didn't know if Minucci had a lawyer and that he would be arraigned Thursday.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he and the police commissioner would not allow such "an ugly incident" to divide the city.

"We've accomplished too much to let that happen," he said, noting that the area had been free of such crimes for at least two years.

On Dec. 20, 1986, a group of white teenagers attacked three black men who were stranded in the neighborhood when their car stalled.

One of the men was fatally struck by a car as he fled. Another was beaten with a baseball bat and tree branches. The third escaped.

The attack ignited racial tension in New York and was compared to a lynching by then-Mayor Ed Koch. Eight of the teenagers were convicted or pleaded guilty to charges of manslaughter, assault, conspiracy and rioting.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: alsharpton; cary; jessejackson; newyork; ny; nyc; phonyhatecrime; queens; reval; tawanabrawley
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To: Abathar
it is wrong I know but I just can't seem to work up a tear for them either.

Why is it wrong? Some car thieves got beaten. I regard that as a good thing.

21 posted on 06/30/2005 5:11:57 AM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: ko_kyi
Unless the attackers somehow knew what these guys were thinking (impossible) then their intention to steal a car is meaningless.

The fact that guido went to get a couple of friends before jumping these guys makes it pre-meditated.

Howard Beach has changed in complexion since the 80s but the new-comers are not black. The prototypical guido-hitter mentality is still there (obviously) but this blatant action surprises me.

22 posted on 06/30/2005 5:12:06 AM PDT by wtc911 (Rocky Sullivan died a coward.)
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To: Abathar

Notice how the title of this article automatically make the back men the victims? Here, let me rewrite the title as it should be:

"Government Declares War on Black Crime: 7% of the Population Commits 60% of The Violent Rapes, Robberies and Murders....Law Abiding Citizens Fed Up"


23 posted on 06/30/2005 5:12:12 AM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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To: Abathar

You have admitted car thieves giving their side of the story but we don't hear the accused's side.

Watch.

This will go to court. The facts will be laid out and the kid will be acquitted.

Then there'll be a riot because all people will remember is the BS printed from the AP.


24 posted on 06/30/2005 5:12:43 AM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: Abathar

"Three black men who ventured into a historically white neighborhood early Wednesday to steal a car..."

And the point?


25 posted on 06/30/2005 5:12:54 AM PDT by toddlintown (Your papers please.)
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To: Abathar

Without a doubt Mayor Blooming-idiot is a hopeless panderer.


26 posted on 06/30/2005 5:12:54 AM PDT by OldFriend (AMERICAN WARS SET MEN FREE)
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To: ko_kyi

I'm sure the three black Car Thieves backed down when this kid came at them with a bat.


27 posted on 06/30/2005 5:14:07 AM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: Abathar
Three white men who ventured into a historically black neighborhood early Wednesday to steal a car were chased by a man with a baseball bat, police said. One man was beaten and suffered a fractured skull. Mayor Bloomberg will formally recognize the heroism of the bat wielder with a Keys to the City award at City Hall on Friday. Governor Pataki will attend and issue a State Proclamation commending the baseball skills of NYC citizens who fight crime in their neighborhood streets with nothing but Louisville sluggers.
28 posted on 06/30/2005 5:14:11 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: 26lemoncharlie

[[The Hate Crimes Laws are nothing more than the implementation of the Values set forth in the European Socialist Manefesto. They undermine our Gurantee of Freedom of Speech by the Constitution.]]

Hate crimes laws are designed only to silence the white majority population.


29 posted on 06/30/2005 5:14:40 AM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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To: Abathar
This is the most bizarrely written story I've ever seen the AP put out. Guys give some justice to thieves and it's a hate crime and written as a racial column?
30 posted on 06/30/2005 5:14:40 AM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: biblewonk
The SUV guy probably had a cell phone and could have called the cops.

I'm with you. Unless the black guys were actually committing a crime, what we have here is a senseless assault (not a hate crime, just a senseless assault). They'd have gotten off easier if a car was actually being stolen.

31 posted on 06/30/2005 5:14:45 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Taglines are supposed to have meaning?)
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To: SlowBoat407
I said I don't believe in prosecuting hate crimes. I meant I don't believe in classifying a crime as a hate crime. It should be prosecuted as assault and battery. "Why" is pointless.

Well, not pointless -- it should be mentioned by a prosecutor during trial as (part of) motive, and during sentencing when determining the likelihood for rehabilitation. However, I do agree that there shouldn't be separate charges or extra penalties for "hate crimes".

32 posted on 06/30/2005 5:15:44 AM PDT by kevkrom (“It’s good to remember whom people turn to when they’re desperate — and it ain’t Kofi Annan.”)
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To: kevkrom

"Yeah, I don't get this... "


Next time you hear the NAACP call for a 'hate crime' law you will understand what that means. The idea is that some crimes are politically correct(mainly those ones against you) and some are not.


33 posted on 06/30/2005 5:16:17 AM PDT by marylandrepub1 (Social Security: The payroll taxes are the only part guaranteed !)
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To: kevkrom

Wonder what the rap sheet looks like on the perps?


34 posted on 06/30/2005 5:18:02 AM PDT by MudSlide
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To: Abathar

Criminal possession of a weapon? Since when is possessing a baseball bat criminal? Why don't they go arrest the NY Yankees while they're at it?


35 posted on 06/30/2005 5:18:15 AM PDT by toothfairy86
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To: Abathar
The three blacks told investigators they had been looking for a car to steal when they entered the Howard Beach neighborhood.

In other words, this lowlife scumbag criminal Minucci assaulted another lowlife scumbag criminal.

Watch this turn into a citywide days of rage with the Reverend Al Sharpton leading a Million Car Thief March.

36 posted on 06/30/2005 5:19:17 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: toothfairy86
Since when is possessing a baseball bat criminal?

Since someone used it to attack another person. Then it becomes a weapon.

37 posted on 06/30/2005 5:19:58 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Taglines are supposed to have meaning?)
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To: Abathar

They should be brining up the other 2 thieves on Good Samaritan laws.

The kid had a bat, not an Uzi.

Pussies.


38 posted on 06/30/2005 5:20:38 AM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: SlowBoat407
They'd have gotten off easier if a car was actually being stolen.

How do you know they were not in the process of stealing a car?

39 posted on 06/30/2005 5:21:35 AM PDT by alnick ("I will continue to be guided by the advice that matters." GWB 6/28/05)
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To: SlowBoat407
I'm with you. Unless the black guys were actually committing a crime, what we have here is a senseless assault (not a hate crime, just a senseless assault). They'd have gotten off easier if a car was actually being stolen.

Even in the bible where the laws are much more conservative, someone has to be on your property for you to be able to go thrash him. You don't get to go out on patrol. Even the cops aren't at liberty to thrash people when they actually ARE on patrol.

40 posted on 06/30/2005 5:22:20 AM PDT by biblewonk (If you don't get the bible, how can you be a Christian?)
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