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The Real Abuse at Guantanamo - (retired Green Beret has this one right on the money!)
TECH CENTRAL STATION.COM ^ | JUNE 29, 2005 | GORDON CUCULLU

Posted on 06/29/2005 3:57:52 PM PDT by CHARLITE

After speaking with soldiers, sailors, and civilians who collectively staff the Joint Task Force - Guantanamo Bay, Cuba on my recent visit to that base, I left convinced that abuse definitely exists at the detention facilities. But not the slander and hyperbole about alleged mistreatment of the unlawful combatants confined there that we've all heard. There is far more serious abuse: the relentless, merciless attacks on American servicemen and women by these same terrorist thugs.

Many of the orange jumpsuit-clad detainees fight their captors at every opportunity. They attack guards whenever the soldiers enter their cells, trying to reach up under protective face masks to gouge eyes and tear mouths. They make weapons and try to stab the guards or grab and break limbs as the guards pass them food. These terrorist prisoners openly brag of their desire to kill Americans. One has promised that if he is released he would find MPs in their homes through the Internet, break into their houses at night and 'cut the throats of them and their families like sheep.' These recalcitrant detainees are known euphemistically as being "non-compliant."


Yet these thugs are treated with an amazing degree of compassion: They are given ice cream treats and recreational time. They live in clean facilities, and receive a full Muslim religious package of Koran, prayer rug, beads, and prayer oils. An arrow in every cell points to Mecca. The call to prayer is played five times daily. They are not abused, hanged, tortured, beheaded, raped, mutilated or in any way treated the way that they once treated their own captives or now treat their guards.

Former intelligence officer Wayne Simmons asked those in charge pointedly why we would allow a book like the Koran - that inflames and reinforces the jihadist mentality - even to be distributed to these people. "Doesn't giving them a Koran simply add fuel to an ideological fire already burning out of control?" Simmons asked. Those in charge were visibly surprised at the question. "Giving them the Koran is simply something that we think we ought to do as a humane gesture," said second-in-command Brigadier General Gong. "We're Americans. That's how we operate."

Our group went to GITMO to check out tales that the military was being too tough on these terrorist detainees. We left convinced that America is being extraordinarily lenient - some might even say too much so. But JTF GITMO commanding officer Brigadier General Jay Hood will have none of that. He radiated confidence and determination when fielding challenges from our group about lenient treatment. "It works," he says simply. "We do not allow torture or mistreatment, period." How do they guarantee this? By rigorous, on-going training and constant oversight up and down the supervisory chain. As proof that "establishing rapport" with the detainees is far more effective than coercive techniques, General Hood refers skeptics to the massive amount of usable intelligence information JTF GITMO continues to produce even three years into the program.

We dined with the soldiers, toured several of the individual holding camps, observed interrogations, and inspected cells. We were impressed by the universally high quality of the cadre and the facilities. While it may not be exactly "Club GITMO" that Rush Limbaugh uses to tweak the hard-left critics who haven't a clue about reality here, GITMO is a far cry from the harshness we would expect in a maximum security prison in the US.

For example, meals for detainees are ample: we lunched on what several thought was an accumulated single day's ration for detainees. "No," the contract food service manager said with a laugh, "what you're looking at there is today's lunch. A single meal. They get three a day like that." Several prisoners have special meal orders like "no tomatoes" or "no peanut products" depending on taste or allergies.

The detainees are similarly catered to medically. Almost every one arrived at GITMO with some sort of battlefield trauma. After all, the majority were captured in combat. Today they are healthy, immunized, and well cared for. At a visit to the modern hospital facility the doctor in charge confirmed that the caloric count for the detainees was so high that while "most detainees arrived undernourished," medics now watch for overweight and cholesterol issues.

Of the estimated 70,000 battlefield captures that were made in Afghanistan, only a tiny percentage, something on the order of 800-plus, were eventually evacuated to GITMO. These were the worst of the worst. More than 200 have been released because they are no longer a threat or possess no useful information. Even this has been proven overly generous: more than 10 released GITMO detainees have been killed or recaptured fighting Americans or have been identified as resuming terrorist activities.

You are right to worry about inhumane treatment taking place at GITMO. But your concern should be for the dedicated, well-trained, highly professional American men and women who are subjected to a daily barrage of feces, urine, semen, and spit hurled at them along with vile invective as they implement a humane, enlightened system of confinement on men who want nothing more than to kill Americans. These quiet professional Americans, who live under the motto "Honor Bound for Defense of Freedom," deserve our utmost respect and concern. Shame on anyone who slanders or disrespects them.

Gordon Cucullu is a former Green Beret lieutenant colonel and author of Separated at Birth: How North Korea became the Evil Twin.


TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abuses; american; cary; detainees; gitmo; guantanamo; guards; koran; meals; menu; military; prayers; prisoners; rugs; treatment
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1 posted on 06/29/2005 3:57:55 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Bump for later read.


2 posted on 06/29/2005 3:59:45 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: CHARLITE

Read this a couple of days ago; our soldiers are real professionals IMHO


3 posted on 06/29/2005 4:06:11 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: CHARLITE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1432988/posts


4 posted on 06/29/2005 4:06:48 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CHARLITE

And the liberal media is silent.


5 posted on 06/29/2005 4:08:28 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: CHARLITE

And the liberal media is silent.


6 posted on 06/29/2005 4:08:30 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: CHARLITE

Thank you so much CHAR, I am now officially disturbed with president Bush. I hope this only lasts for today. His speech was OK, but I think President Bush should have taken Neil Cavuto's advice: be angry, not conciliatory. The nation would have applauded him for standing up to the lib campaign of treason.

Icescream and Korans? Do a search on my posts, you will see that I am a supporter of Operation Iraqi Freedom. But this kind of pandering and icescream kid gloves treatment for "humane" "reasons" just drives me crazy. Michael-Savage crazy.


7 posted on 06/29/2005 4:09:07 PM PDT by Sirc_Valence (To FReep or not to FReep. Is it really a question?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I wish.


8 posted on 06/29/2005 4:10:13 PM PDT by Sirc_Valence (To FReep or not to FReep. Is it really a question?)
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To: CHARLITE
Great, another testimony saying prisoners aren't abused at Gitmo. Duh. Try the local prison, where normal Americans are sent (Martha Steward and friends excluded), if you want to see abuse.
9 posted on 06/29/2005 4:12:07 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Ignorance)
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To: CHARLITE
"Doesn't giving them a Koran simply add fuel to an ideological fire already burning out of control?" Simmons asked. Those in charge were visibly surprised at the question.

This is a great point.

It is akin to giving Nazi POWs a copy of Mein Kampf or bowing toward Japanese POWs while obsequiously saying their notion the Emperor Hirohito really is God certainly should be considered!

PC is going to be the ruination of us and stymie our efforts, perhaps fatally, in this war.

10 posted on 06/29/2005 4:13:35 PM PDT by Gritty ("If Gitmo closed tomorrow, within 48 hrs anti-Americans would find another Gulag Of The Week-M Steyn)
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To: Sirc_Valence
I think Bush could have been a little more aggressive but angry is unrealistic. Not his style and it would show the libs are getting to him which i hope they are not.

The media is totally childish. Nothing new happened in Iraq. A dubious poll was misread to say most peopel want out of Iraq. From there the media went on a silly tear about falling support, quagmire, etc. The president comes out and reminds everyone of stuff we already knew and it shuts them up for a while. Still nothing changed before, during or after this little media tempest.

11 posted on 06/29/2005 4:14:37 PM PDT by Williams
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To: silverleaf

ping


12 posted on 06/29/2005 4:20:45 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: CHARLITE

Why don't they have closed circuit TV on this animals.

When the allegations of abuse came out, they should have released footage of what the guards face.


13 posted on 06/29/2005 4:22:36 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: Sirc_Valence
"President Bush should have taken Neil Cavuto's advice: be angry, not conciliatory."

Frankly and honestly, I don't think that President Bush has the capacity for very much anger. He is so steady, that he maintains an incredible (and admirable) equalibrium. He must have to, in order to put up with the savaging that he has had to endure.

I agree with you, though. If he were to haul off just once, in a big, formal news conference (not an address to the nation, I don't think), and sock it to the entire liberal bumpkins BIG TIME, I think that his poll numbers would skyrocket.

All of his loyal stalwart supporters, like yours truly, out in the boondocks across America are frankly waiting and hoping to see him sound off!

He deserves to give 'em a piece of his mind, and they (every single one of them) deserve to be tarred and feathered by the CIC!

Thanks for your comment.

Char :)

14 posted on 06/29/2005 4:28:21 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: Williams

You're right. Angry was the wrong word to use. I would have preferred the president to be a bit more confrontational and sticking up for all those millions of Democrats and Republicans that know what the libs have been doing. He may have even reached people who's idea of what's going on is mainly lib spin presented as "news".


15 posted on 06/29/2005 5:27:37 PM PDT by Sirc_Valence (By "paint the nation blue" they mean "depress everyone.")
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To: CHARLITE

What? No viagra?


16 posted on 06/29/2005 6:30:58 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: CHARLITE

Spot-on, Charlite, thanks for posting this.


17 posted on 06/29/2005 7:37:25 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (George Allen will decimate Hitlery in '08)
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To: CHARLITE

If this piece is true then we are doomed as a nation and fated to be cowed and eventually ruled by our own tormentors. The strange thing is that the author comments favorably on the gentle treatment of these prisoners. If there is no evidence against them, let them go. If there is, we should use electricity and rusty surgical instruments to extract every last ounce of intelligence, and then use these same implements to extract their very souls.

Things have gone terribly wrong when we apologize for things that we haven't done but SHOULD be doing, and NOT apologizing for.


18 posted on 06/29/2005 8:15:13 PM PDT by forrestroche (But ignorance, while it checks the enthusiasm of the sensible, in no way restrains the fools...)
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To: CHARLITE
Yet these thugs are treated with an amazing degree of compassion: They are given ice cream treats and recreational time. They live in clean facilities, and receive a full Muslim religious package of Koran, prayer rug, beads, and prayer oils. An arrow in every cell points to Mecca. The call to prayer is played five times daily. They are not abused, hanged, tortured, beheaded, raped, mutilated or in any way treated the way that they once treated their own captives or now treat their guards.

Call it compassion if you want. I say we are chumps. A group of 'non compliant' should be marched out every morning and shot until there are no more 'non compliant'.

19 posted on 06/29/2005 8:21:05 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51
Call it compassion if you want. I say we are chumps. A group of 'non compliant' should be marched out every morning and shot until there are no more 'non compliant'.

Herded in with pigs would be better. Allah wouldn't let in any pig touchers.

20 posted on 06/29/2005 10:34:46 PM PDT by mountn man (Everyone brings joy into a room. Some when they enter. Others when they leave)
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